• @frequenttimetraveler@lemmy.world
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    So now that the whole advanced world is supporting (fervently in some cases) this ethnic cleansing, how do we move forward? It is clear that palestinians will not remain the area, the question is whether to kill them all, or to exile them.

    Considering that this is a (heavily) US-backed ethnic cleansing , it is only fair that the palestinians be cleansed into Jordan, which is the US protectorate in the area. One can understand why Egyptians (one of the few actual nation-states in the region) don’t want 2 million refugees, so there seems to be no other option. The US should come forward and start discussing this. The option to turn millions of palestinians to the EU as refugees is not going to be met with the passivity that the waves of immigrants of syrians, afghans, africans and ukrainians have. I think people can see the pattern here, the continuation of the Cold War, when europe acts as a bulwark for the US , taking all the damage for the shit the US does.

    • @mongoosedadei@lemmy.world
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      81 year ago

      I’m sure you don’t mean to offend, but the phrase “whole civilized world” being used to describe just the US + parts of western Europe is questionable at the very best.

  • @fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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    Nakba is David vs Goliath except David is a fascistic terrorist organization and ever-growing Goliath kicks the shit out of David every time.

    Perhaps don’t rely on a religious fascism for your liberation? Have you ever tried that?

    • @merthyr1831@lemmy.world
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      161 year ago

      You’re trying so hard to describe Hamas but ended up describing Israel in the process.

      It’s depressing that the world thinks Palestinians want every Jew dead, but there’s actually only one side saying “Death to all [race]” and it’s the Israelis.

      Meanwhile, Hamas rewrote its charter to remove antisemitism and declare its resistance to Zionism rather than Judaism, but they can’t be trusted because they’re evil muslims, and the Israelis are descendants of god (white Europeans).

        • Deceptichum
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          It was pretty bad.

          fascistic terrorist organization is clearly the government of Israel.

          “Goliath kicks the shit out of David every time.” is however not Palestine, because sadly the genocide Israel is committing is indictive of it’s superior invading force against innocent families.

          • @fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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            Ok, I’ll spell it out to you. In my analogy:

            • David: fascistic government of Palestine (also called Hamas)
            • Goliath: Israel

            I’m aware that in 1 Samuel 17, David is Isrealites, whereas Goliath represents Philistines. My analogy is a kind of a subversion of this traditional story.

            • Five
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              David: fascistic government of Palestine (also called Hamas)

              I think @Deceptichum’s point is that Hamas isn’t the government of Palestine, has never been the government has only been the ruling party of the of the Palestinian Authority from 2006-2007, and didn’t exist in the Gaza Strip before 1988. Calling the various Palestinian organizations that opposed Israel’s aggression against Arabs ‘Hamas’ and labeling them collectively as ‘fascist’ seems absurd, given Israel is the other candidate in the analogy.

              Your analogy is terrible, not because people don’t understand the subversion, but because you’re wrong about basic facts.

                • Five
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                  21 year ago

                  Thanks for the clarification. I’ve updated my comment to be more accurate.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Authority

                  In the Palestinian legislative elections on 25 January 2006, Hamas emerged victorious and nominated Ismail Haniyeh as the Authority’s Prime Minister. However, the national unity Palestinian government effectively collapsed, when a violent conflict between Hamas and Fatah erupted, mainly in the Gaza Strip. After the Gaza Strip was taken over by Hamas on 14 June 2007, the Authority’s Chairman Mahmoud Abbas dismissed the Hamas-led unity government and appointed Salam Fayyad as Prime Minister, dismissing Haniyeh. The move wasn’t recognized by Hamas, thus resulting in two separate administrations – the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and a rival Hamas government in the Gaza Strip.