• @banneryear1868@lemmy.worldOP
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      Liberal take right now is, “I support Biden 100%, it’s just a shame how the genocide his government is enabling and vocally supporting is hurting his poll numbers.”

      It’s not like Trump wouldn’t be doing the same thing sending weapons to a fascist government, I mean that’s American foreign policy 101, but it takes a particularly sadistic American perspective to care more about how it makes them look in the polls than the horrors inflicted by the state.

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          Search Google news or similar aggregate for “Biden poll numbers Israel Gaza Palestine” and you will find many liberal pundits making this exact point. Public opinion doesn’t support this genocide but the government does, should tell you something there.

          For the second point you only have to have a cursory glance at US-sponsored regime changes and coups, the right/fascist group supporting foreign private business interests is the one the US supports.

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              If you truly didn’t care you would agree with the criticisms that apply rather than paradoxically dismiss them. It’s wrong that this media apparatus, supported by partisan political and corporate interests, divorced from public sentiment, cares more about Biden’s poll numbers than genocide, correct? This is very easy to agree with unless you are personally invested in this political system to the point where you can’t criticize aspects of it that are engaged in genocide.

              “Don’t criticize Biden for supporting genocide, that’s how you get another Trump term.” What can you criticize if not genocide, this is fucked.

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                  It’s ignorant and moronic to criticize a president and government for enabling genocide? Okay.

                  “Don’t criticize the genocide supporting president, it might help the other genocide supporting president.” Accepting how fucked this is is a pre-requisite for any change that could happen so good luck with the status quo there.

    • @Aabbcc@lemm.ee
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      61 year ago

      Cheering to eat shit because you’re being threatened with eating a bigger shit

      Never advocating to stop eating shit

        • @banneryear1868@lemmy.worldOP
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          81 year ago

          destroy humanity

          What exactly do you think the bombs being sold right now by the US government/president to Israel are doing?

        • @Aabbcc@lemm.ee
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          61 year ago

          Yes it’s the principled voters destroying humanity not the ghouls capitulating to the defense contractors

              • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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                11 year ago

                Yeah you morons can’t accept reality which is you contributed ignorantly even though a toddler could see it coming

                • @Aabbcc@lemm.ee
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                  41 year ago

                  Homie you’re mad at the wrong person

                  But I guess I’m easier to bully on the internet than politicians

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        A lot of times it’s even like, “don’t talk about how bad the shit tastes! If you grimace you’re gonna get the bigger shit! Your natural reaction to eating shit is something you need to deny and suppress!”

        Accepting it’s shit is step one, if you can’t even openly vocalize or emotionally express your discontent, how is anyone supposed to begin to organize. How do you know who else doesn’t like shit if everyone is just silently consenting to it.

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        As a queer person with friends whose literal well-being is in danger if Trump gets another term, but who are safe under Democrats, fuck you. Your privilege is how you can act this way. Refusing to vote for the “lesser of two evils” is a nice way to say you don’t give a fuck about marginalized people.

        • @Aabbcc@lemm.ee
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          Yes spend your time fucking me instead of fucking the democrats running the worst candidates they can find. You definitely understand the point and will battle to eat the little shit instead of ways to stop eating shit at all.

          • Beaupedia
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            11 year ago

            Thanks for further making my point for me. I’m sure your principles will keep my trans friends safe.

              • Beaupedia
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                11 year ago

                Weird, guess reality has been missed by you. Lots of protections put in place over the last few years, lots of attacks during the Trump administration. Stop making excuses for your apathy.

  • Cyv_
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    Voting is the bare fucking minimum. You want more change you have to do more. Help candidates you like by volunteering your time, vote in primaries especially, and your local elections. A city council member might end up mayor, might end up senator, might end up presidential hopeful. Push for ranked choice voting, write your reps and tell them that is what you want.

    • @banneryear1868@lemmy.worldOP
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      61 year ago

      Labor organizing can do more than getting specific people in to places within the US government, they’ll be beholden to the same interests that keep the system running. It comes down to who can raise the most money at the end of the day, and PACs are funded by corporate interests. Any political actions done without class consciousness built in are basically useless.

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      So close, and yet so far…

      Yes, voting is the bare minimum, vote, but as you say, if you want change, you have to do more.

      So why on earth would you invest any more than the bare minimum in to a system that is designed to preserve the status quo?

      I’m sorry, but if you’re still pinning your hopes on change via electorate, you’ve not been paying attention.

      Why donate time and money to a candidate fighting windmills by participating in a rigged game, when you can actually contribute towards feeding your neighbours? Or supporting your local workers who are striking? Or building communal services like libraries (for books, but also movies, tools, toys, pots and pans, anything!) and spaces for people to practice hobbies and connect?

      Building strong communities that understand and practice solidarity and mutual aid is the only way to build a better society and create an alternative to the systems we’ve been forced to exist under by and so a handful of people can hoard all of the power and resources.

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        My god, the privilege you must have to be so fucking blasé about the wellbeing of others who will suffer under another Trump administration. If you were in danger under a Trump administration but not in danger under a Biden administration, you would not be talking this way. It’s privilege that prevents you from seeing that.

  • @Gork@lemm.ee
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    181 year ago

    Huh. I never thought about how Big Bird actually was controlled before. Neat.

  • Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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    101 year ago

    The only way to 100% solve this is by:

    1. organizing, supplanting party insiders from the ground up over years, with hard work and dedication through many years, with no guarantee of success

    2. risk it for a biscuit

    3. accept messy incrementalism into your heart

  • DessertStorms
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    Lmfao at the libs in the comments pretending as if “team blue” doesn’t exist to serve the exact same people, just hide it behind a very slightly thicker veil…

  • Franzia
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    31 year ago

    I feel like the government is often a quest giver. The executive branch will let all of these companies run free so long as they do some project for the government on occasion. Like the NSA server deal with Microsoft. This is of course even more true with defense contractors, which get absurd contracts to “keep engineers trained” and the government tries to give the Mail Truck contract to Northrop-Grumman.