one of hn’s core demographics (windbag grifters) fights with a bunch of skeptics over whether it’s a bad thing the medicine they’re selling is mostly cocaine and alcohol
Thanks for saying this, this is my perspective as well and I’ve been kinda dumbfounded by all the questions about copyright from LLMs. They’re just tools and computer programs right? Why would copyright be any different while using them than other tools.
I don’t understand why tech people seem to have so much trouble with this concept??? People keep going “oh but how is it different from a camera or from Photoshop or whatever” and like… the answer is obviously that a camera or Photoshop doesn’t depend on being fed prior existing copyrighted work in order to function?? How is this confusing???
No but seriously I have been seeing people say this kind of thing for months now and I don’t understand why people keep making this argument. Are they ignoring the obvious counterargument on purpose or are they actually so hype-blinded that they don’t see a difference?
the cookie cutter responses and how fast they appeared are something AI and cryptocurrency grifters both share. in some cases it’s because they’re the same person, but I also keep seeing evidence that there’s something systemic to both (and other grift tech) that encourages uniformity of response and heavily punishes skepticism
it’s definitely possible to be an asshole with a camera and create repro-quality images of someone else’s work, but generative AI is pretty much an asshole by necessity, and at an incredibly large scale
come to think of it, generative AI’s behavior resembling the biggest assholes you can run into in art is probably why all the artists-turned-programmers I know hate it
from my experiences with our local (CT, ZA) branch of these types, skepticism gets receiver-parsed as disapproving negativity. they’re simply not open to the idea that you might be arguing against them on details, simply not agreeing gets cast as being on the other side of the fence from their beliefs
so before you could even get into the details of why a synthesis is often transitively a copyright problem, you first have to get them to even think you’re not arguing with their chosen church. and, well.
further evidence that AI bros are crypto bros with a different front end
it’s kind of like when the poker assholes all switched to chess
