Democratic West Virginia senator calls the Inflation Reduction Act, hailed as ‘biggest step on climate crisis’, a ‘radical agenda’

    • Chetzemoka
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      202 years ago

      But he IS afraid of his constituents. That’s why he’s switching his positions, because he’s afraid of being voted out next year

    • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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      102 years ago

      That’s the opposite of what is happening here. He is afraid of his constituents in West Virginia. It’s his electors that would rather see the world burn than lose their own inflated incomes. WV’s economy is very tied to fossil fuels.

      • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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        Too bad there wasn’t some huge pool of spending allocated, that they could use to diversify their economy and energy sources. As the world flushes down fossil fuel companies, the pay seem determined to ride that wave

  • WtfEvenIsExistence3️
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    162 years ago

    Well I mean, when you live in a red state, you gotta do this to get re-elected. Honestly, as much as I hate him, I’d probably still vote for him if I lived in West Virginia. It’s either him or a republican which means one less vote for senate confirmations.

    When a politician says something, don’t take it at face value. I don’t think he actually believes the things he says, it’s just an election strategy to him. (Plus the “donations” he gets from oil conpanies is another motivating factor)

    • CMLVI
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      142 years ago

      When Manchin goes, he isn’t getting replaced by a more left Dem. He is as left as the state is gonna go for some time. Trump had ~70% of the vote; even the most liberal county, Monongalia, still broke for Trump, and that’s where WVU is.

      Anyone who thinks the citizens here will vote for another Dem are delusional. He’s staying in power because he was already there, simple as. He was an agreeable Dem because he would talk about coal lovingly and bitch about things people wanted him to bitch about. If/when he swaps to R, he’s going further right or the people here will vote a better conservative in.

        • CMLVI
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          72 years ago

          Nope, just plain ol’ hateful people here. Every single county went Trump in 2020, even the ones with large college and educated populations. Closest it got was Monongalia county were he only had 50-60% of the votes. If any county would be blue, it would have been Mon, but they couldn’t win there either.

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          You can’t gerrymander a statewide race like senator or governor, because everyone in the state gets to vote, there’s no districts to draw.

          At a national level (as in its three house reps) it’s so red that no matter how you draw it they’re all going to be red.

          At the state level, they have 100 house districts and 34 for the senate drawn by the Republican legislature that are certainly gerrymandered (couldn’t find much about the specifics though except this.)

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              I agree the gerrymandering of state districts can definitely influence the outcome of statewide races, but they cannot directly gerrymander the senate race because the only “district” is the state itself which cannot be redrawn.

              So looking at the original question, are they gerrymandering the senate seat? No, they can’t. Are they unfairly influencing outcomes of the race through other means? Probably. Will it make a difference in terms of WV voting for a dem that’s not Manchin (ie is it “real”)? Probably no because the only thing keeping a (more or less) Dem senator in a state that went 70% for Trump is incumbency and his special relationship to the coal industry.

                • wrath-sedan
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                  Haha it’s ok. I’m not saying that gerrymandering isn’t a problem or that it’s not happening literally all the time as much as possible.

                  All I mean is that you can’t gerrymander a federal senate seat. You can gerrymander the state legislature districts that control many of the aspects of voting for that statewide seat, but you cannot redraw (ie gerrymander) Joe Manchin’s senate seat without some minor civil wars with WV’s neighbor states.

      • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        32 years ago

        I’ll be glad when we have a larger majority in the senate so I can get to see what the new excuse for keeping Lord Manchington around is.

        • CMLVI
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          22 years ago

          Comedic relief, watching him scramble between the GOP and the fence he normally sits his stupid ass on…

    • Demographics (She/Her)
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      32 years ago

      If you need to figure out Joe Manchin, watch Hamilton. He will sacrifice his constituents and values to be the one making and being made deals. He will speak one way and act another to cover that.

    • CIWS-30
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      To be fair, it’s one of the old school Republicans that would cross the aisle and vote for something Democrats made that are now Extinct in modern Politics. They died with John McCain, honestly. Better Manchin than Sinema or an actual modern Republican.

      If I had to vote in 5-10 more Joe Manchin style “Democrats” to kick the same number of Republicans out of office in Red States, I would. Especially if it gave us 60 Democrats and the ability to have a filibuster-proof majority. Even if they were like “Immigrants are bad” or “All guns are good” or “We have to stop being woke about gays and trans and pronouns.” or whatever, as long as they weren’t all of that at once (and preferably only ONE of those at once) I’d vote them in, so long as they voted to do something about climate change, and also hopefully to reform the economy so all the money and power’s not in the hands of the big megacorps and billionaires.

      People won’t stop being stupid and bigoted, so we have to take the wins we can. Everyone complains that Republicans keep trotting out “God, Guns, and Gays” every time they campaign, but what they’re not addressing is that Republicans keep WINNING with the 3 G’s and also immigration. They hold the house and have enough of the senate to filibuster everything. They’ve also used their control of the house and senate (and Presidency, when they have it) to pack the Supreme Court too.

      I honestly want Democrats and liberal ideological purists to start being realistic now that the world is burning down around us and see that we’ve run out of time and need to start winning now, or else we won’t have a future. The fact that young Republicans believe in and want to do something about climate change is also a good thing. Reality is about power and consensus, it’s not about ideals.