Google is getting worse as it loses its fight against search engine spam::Aggressive SEO tactics are ruining search results on Google, Bing, and DuckDuckGo, a team of researchers in Germany says.

  • The Assman
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    391 year ago

    Here come the totally organic Kagi users to tell us paying for search is worth it. Use DDG or anything else that’s free.

    • maegul (he/they)
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      191 year ago

      I mean, expecting everything on the internet to be free without question seems to be the beginning of some troubles. A more human and direct connection between people and the makers of the things they use seems to me a better scenario.

      • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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        41 year ago

        Agreed, folks have gotten far too used to the majority of internet being free without considering that the backend systems cost money to maintain and operate. Take Lemmy for example, we’re fortunate to have such a dedicated group of volunteers literally spending time and money to operate instances like Lemmy.world. However, the admins of LW have been fairly transparent about how much work it is to keep the instance running relatively smooth. Now imagine a service that’s handling millions of users versus tens of thousands, it just isn’t feasible to run it without crowdsource funding it, similar to how Wikipedia funds itself.

  • Ghostalmedia
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    251 year ago

    Google has become even more worse because of all the sponsored content.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]
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    181 year ago

    I’ve noticed that using more advanced syntax helps to alleviate the issue, in both DDG and Google. Specially apostrophes (to force exact terms) and the minus (to remove results containing a certain word or expression).

  • @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    131 year ago

    IMHO, the problem with Google isn’t SEO. It’s Google. When Google was great, it would find exactly what you were searching for. The whole point was to get you off of Google and on to whatever site you were looking for as quickly as possible. Over the last several years, their search has increasingly been drinking the ‘engagement algorithm’ Kool-Aid. Now Google doesn’t search for what you ask, it searches for what it thinks you are trying to find. Which is fucking useless because I know exactly what I’m trying to find and that’s exactly what I typed in. Selecting verbatim search and putting things in quotes helps. But it’s still displays tons of irrelevant stuff that doesn’t include what I searched for.

    It’s actually easy to point to exactly when the downfall started. Years ago Google was trying to make a social network called Google+ that would compete with Facebook. Before this, a + operator in the search field meant only show results that contain that particular term. But they wanted people to search for Google+, so they changed it so the plus sign became a searchable term and quotes were necessary to include a term or phrase. That was the moment Google decided that search wasn’t their most important product. And it’s been slow downhill ever since.

  • @Endward23@futurology.today
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    111 year ago

    We come in the situation that communities like this one here become more and more important since nobody can stop the SEO.

    Friendly users will help you with usefull links. I know, many people has made bad experience with internet trolls or just echo chamber but his wasn’t the case anytime.

    We are in a kind of “new usenet”.

    • arran 🇦🇺
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      31 year ago

      Definitely related to the fall of usenet. The fact that it’s ungoverned and standard, but the immediately obvious fix is not a situation people want either.

      • @Endward23@futurology.today
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        11 year ago

        The fact that it’s ungoverned and standard, but the immediately obvious fix is not a situation people want either.

        Please elaborate.

  • DreamButt
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    51 year ago

    Sadly haven’t found a search engine that beats it

    • @reddig33@lemmy.world
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      91 year ago

      Adding “site:” before a search string can help if you know what you’re looking for. Like site:wikipedia or site:GitHub.com

      This kills off AI spam by constricting search results to pages from that site.

      But google’s other problem that this doesn’t solve (just like Amazon) is that the first few results are always paid ads, and not actual search results.

      • @sanpo@sopuli.xyz
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        61 year ago

        Right, except if I knew beforehand which site has the results I need, why would I even use Google?

        • @vividspecter@lemm.ee
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          71 year ago

          Sites that have discussions almost always have useless search functions. Using site: on those would likely give you better results then searching globally (even if it takes multiple searches).

    • @JayleneSlide@lemmy.world
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      31 year ago

      Except the results from DDG are also a dumpster fire of affiliate spam “listicles,” Pinterest garbage, and unrelated SEO BS. Oh, and Reddit sure has risen in all the results since the APIpocalypse. Almost like big business is all starving each other’s backs.

  • kingthrillgore
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    21 year ago

    I’ve been pretty happy with SearxNG as a stand-in as it collates from multiple search engines.