I don’t like gaps, included rounded corners. Let me use all my screen space dammit

dislike having to click twice

Settings –> customize -> toolbar layout -> expanded

The opposite of pro-AI isn’t anti-AI. It’s non-AI.

You’ve lost your damn mind

Can’t disagree that I’d rather the time be spent elsewhere, but firefox needs to be a big tent that isn’t only targeted to tech savvy or anti AI people. I’ll also admit I turned off smart tab group in about:config as soon as I saw it, but rather than “pestering” it was just a button in the tab group UI? I don’t even know how to do link previews so it definitely never pestered me there. Local language translation is actively useful and far more desirable that using remote services.

Another point about pulling time away from other development… The same time period these were implemented is also when they finally started doing things people definitely like such as tab groups and vertical tabs so it sure doesn’t seem like they’re too tight in resources.

Tldr; firefox is for everyone and being mad that they implemented features you don’t use is entitled bullshit

No idea why you’d think that…

Broken record 2 chiming in. None of these features do anything unless you use them so they effectively are opt-in. Turning off the settings gets rid of the UI elements that are how you’d use them, which is excellent.

Additionally, a setting to automatically disable future features is a very strong acknowledgement of and empowerment for strongly anti-AI users.

Up until now I have agreed with the crowd upset at how FF as handled AI features, but at this point you are just upset because you want to be.

And this is why the “online advertising ecosystem” should not be allowed to exist

If amnezia is sus they probably added mullvad to lend credibility to the overall statement

There is a fundamental difference this post is pretending doesn’t exist.

Trusting the abstractions of compilers and fundamental widely used libraries is not a problem because they are deterministic and battle tested.

LLMs do not add a layer of abstraction. They produce code at the existing layer of abstraction.

Oh is it this time again? Every several months there is an influx of Chinese devices and this discussion happens. It’ll likely be up again next month. Have fun with the wild speculation I guess

Steam deck is the preeminent system that uses proton.

I know plenty of people that say they’re Christians that are good people. Pretty sure all the Christians i know that attend church voted for these christofascists though

Can’t lose what you never had

If you don’t want to discuss something just don’t respond lol

I’m out. There is no point taking with someone that repeatedly lies to try to support their point. Look, I’m against the majority of LLM usage and implementation as well, and I’d rather most of it not be in firefox as well, but:

1. You keep making up things firefox does that it doesn’t. I’m not even convinced you’ve used it
2. You keep talking about UX and dark patterns but you’re obviously making it to as you go
3. Basing conversation on obvious falsehoods is a waste of time

It looks like this page has links, you can summarize them using a clanker” on a frequent basis.

That doesn’t happen. I don’t recall firefox ever popping up a modal while I’m browsing.

You’re completely sidestepping what I actually said and attempting to get me to defend something I didn’t say. Very honest of you

And the fact that the confirmation feels “menacing” and defaulted to cancelling the opting-off (i.e. pressing “esc” or clicking outside the window; one must click the primary-colored “block” button which, contrasted to a grayish “Cancel” button, may psychologically induce the user into thinking “block” is a dangerous action), quite similar to the about:config warning screen.

I don’t think it’s menacing at all. It gives an informative list of features, which is nice to know. I could see a lot of people wanting to turn off all AI then realizing they actually want local translate instead of sending everything to google.

And you’ve got the button intents mixed up. Primary color is always the encouraged action in that kind of design. Dark pattern would be if the colors were flipped.

Other than link previews all the features they are opt-in in the sense you’d have to actually use the feature.