I mean Minecraft still gets regular updates so can’t see that it not being discounted is a problem.

Factorio has never been discounted and people are happy with that, I play both and i am happy with both.

Note I’m not commenting on Microsoft’s decision here as frankly I don’t understand it and whether they have an abundance of caution as they don’t know if this person actually owns the account. But morally I think they should just give the dude a new copy of Minecraft as it costs them nothing really.

Sadly this place will lap up anything that agrees with their world view just like the right would, no seeking of truth.

You can’t have a discussion here that deviates from the popular view as you’ll be downvoted to shit for it. It has become an echo chamber where we all just stroke each others ego about how good we are and most people won’t engage with the other side as they believe they’re too far gone.

This has the added benefit of me spending less time on here and just being in the real world where people are open to change and new ideas.

My bad, I should have specified “Best Actor” academy awards.

I believe the undisputed king of actors is Daniel Day-Lewis myself.

Dudes not done an awful number of movies and has so many accolades. Mainly the only actor to win three academy awards.

Edit: To clarify. The only actor to win three academy awards for best actor.

I ran up massive bills for my parents downloading music on dial up as I was the local cd guy.

Honestly I don’t have any resources really and I think it’s only possible with people you spend a lot of time with.

My method has been quite simple really and I’ll tend to ask questions, to which I know the answers but I know they won’t have any clue.

Example: Lots of anti asylum seeker rhetoric in my country right now. So the first thing I ask is how does one apply for asylum in the UK on boats.

Now I’ve never met anybody on the right able to answer this. So I’ll show them the government site which clearly states to apply for asylum you need to be in the UK.

Then I can frame this as well doesn’t it seem like a manufactured problem that we could solve by letting people make applications before they arrive here.

That’s just a quick example, but the gist has been really to be fucking relentless and not let anything slide without being challenged. After a while you’ll notice these people first come to you for an opinion, which id argue is thinking critically. Then you’ll see them thinking about things themselves rather than asking me.

Now I say be relentless, but you have to read the room and let things slide sometimes otherwise you’ll become insufferable and might hurt the cause, but I’ve found that once you can show some inconsistencies in the right wing rhetoric they’ll be more receptive to learning more and more.

If people are the same everywhere, then it would stand to reason that some of your political opponents have the ability to change their view, alas you have been saying that’s not the case.

That’s the thing though. Most people are not as engaged as we are and they’re not really listening to people speak they’re listening to sound bites.

Also, for clarity I am in the UK so we don’t have anyone quite as deplorable as Trump, but Farage says the same stuff he’s just a little more posh and eloquent.

Perhaps, you mean to suggest it won’t work for your country where I see it working for people in my country.

I’m not the one saying they’re stupid, because that in itself is pretty stupid imo.

I’m saying they’re ignorant and that can be changed.

I don’t agree. You’re essentially teaching people to question what they’re told and at least pause for thought before maybe sharing that misinformation online.

If people are aware that the media is manipulating them and they’ve been shown concrete examples then it stands to reason that they will get better at this the more they do.

Otherwise what’s the fucking point? Is just a circle jerk no?

Yes I can.

I literally witnessed my closest friend pushing back against some of his friends on my talking points. He wants racist or an idiot, he’d been lied to and pointed to the wrong people as the enemy. Now after me working on him for months on end he sees that he was wrong and how the media manipulated him and will push back against others.

I can see a time when he himself converts someone else and perhaps they will also pay it forward.

As I asked the other person, what’s the point on you commenting on political stuff if not to change minds? Otherwise it’s just stroking your ego.

Have fun assuming everybody is American.

Also, for your lack of faith. I guess I wonder why you even comment on this stuff if your intention isn’t to change views then is it just ego stroking?

Respectively, I don’t agree and I’ve had success in de radicalising 5 friends and family which I couldn’t do if I wrote them off as stupid.

Ignorant, sure. Stupid, no.

Frankly I don’t agree.

I’ve had success so far in de radicalising 5 friends/family. Which is5 more votes for a party I would want in power than before.

If you’re going to just ignore them nothing is going to change. They are not suddenly going to wake up and vote Green.

To assume all these people are stupid is in itself stupid.

People have been gaslight for decades now and most people are not critically online like us so it can be hard to know you’re being lied to.

Edit: Before saying the same thing to me again and again, please read my other replies before coming at me. The replies below show me that you people don’t care about changing minds and just care about being right in a place where most of are left leaning, yet all you do is talk with other left leaning people with no ability to change minds, which I’ve done several times. I would argue I am doing more for the cause than you lot.

Exit tax.

What a fun story. That company seemed to be staffed by a bunch of snowflakes. Even had to bring liberals into it.

Sucks to see how many people take everything they see online for face value,” one Proven employee wrote. “Sounds like a bunch of liberals lol.

I use iPhone and I also tried a Pixel with Graphene OS.

Like the above commenter said it’s a trade off with convenience and for me it was too hard to do. Nothing wrong with the OS per se, but I just prefer the convenience of iPhone.

Another point is I’m a middle age software developer so not adverse to learning new things but I’ve got to the point that I want it easier. If I’m doing something I shouldn’t be doing then I’d have a device specific for that.

Tough crowd here.

I was joking.

You’re welcome to your opinion but that doesn’t mean you’re right.