Terrorist cell embedded itself within civilians around Al-Quds Hospital, fired from the hospital entrance at IDF soldiers, and was subsequently eliminated
That’s why staging attacks or garrisoning troops at hospitals, thus turning the sick and injured into human shields, is not only a horrible and inhumane thing to do, but also a war crime.
At some level Hamas knows this, and so the question is why they would do even do it? Is it because they think that using human shields is an effective deterrence? Or is it because they want to provoke an IDF counter-attack against a hospital so they can use it in their propaganda? Either way, it’s a war crime on Hamas’ part and generally terrible for the innocent people in Gaza.
I’m not talking about the law. Laws change over time.
I downvoted you because frankly I think that is a dumb and irrelevant thing to say. The world doesn’t work based on your, or mine, or anyone else’s personal sense of justice, nor should it. That’s why international law exists.
Under international humanitarian law, Hamas using sick people as a human shield is giving the IDF every excuse and legal justification they need to counter-attack the hospitals that they are using to state those attacks. Period.
I would vastly prefer if Hamas didn’t do that. I would vastly prefer that the IDF didn’t have legal justification for attacking hospitals. But what I prefer doesn’t mean shit.
But I guess when you can’t argue against the substance of what I’m saying you can only make embarrassing claims about the timing of meaningless internet points.
Lol, and you completely ignore me saying “Not all laws are just. Not everything just is a law.”
If you want to focus on the law, go right on ahead. I don’t even know why you’d bother replying to someone who clearly states they are not focusing on the law telling them what the law says.
Let’s be real. You’re biased towards Israel so you argue against anything that criticizes it. You don’t want me to say killing civilians is unjust because it’s critical of Israel’s behavior, which you cannot allow.
Just admit it. You’d come across as more genuine than whatever you’re doing now.
Lol, and you completely ignore me saying “Not all laws are just. Not everything just is a law.”
I don’t disagree or take issue with that part.
If you want to focus on the law, go right on ahead. I don’t even know why you’d bother replying to someone who clearly states they are not focusing on the law telling them what the law says.
You responded to me. I responded to you. That’s how conversations work among people who aren’t terminally online.
I was talking about the law because the law is objective. Whether you personally feel something is justified is subjective and irrelevant. One person’s mind can justify anything. Another person might say that no use of military force is ever justified. While a third person might choose to justify the actions of one side over another based on their ideological alignment or political affiliation.
You’re biased towards Israel so you argue against anything that criticizes it.
Do you not see that it’s just as easy for me to baselessly say you’re biased towards Hamas so you argue against anything that Israel does?
I won’t make that argument because it’s weak and, frankly, more than a little bit petty and embarrassing. You have to be pretty shameless to go there.
I’m on the side of the innocent, which you would understand if you read the substance of what I’m saying. Anybody who is on the side of the innocent can easily determine that Hamas are shit eating cowardly bitches for fighting from hospitals, and in doing so they are only further hurting the innocent.
Anyway, you’re boring me with this shit. I’m not an IDF general bombing hospitals, nor am I a Hamas terrorist taking cover behind injured children, so take your pent up frustrations on them instead.
Hamas knows they can and will retaliate so they form their strategy to leverage this. And Israel thinks they can get away with bombing hospitals by dumping shit tons of money on pr. What should be done is it should be made illegal according to international humanitarian laws, god knows why it isn’t.
It remains unjustified.
Sadly, that’s wrong. According to established international humanitarian law, it is justified to counter-attack hospitals in the event that they are used to gather recon or stage attacks. https://www.icrc.org/en/document/protection-hospitals-during-armed-conflicts-what-law-says
That’s why staging attacks or garrisoning troops at hospitals, thus turning the sick and injured into human shields, is not only a horrible and inhumane thing to do, but also a war crime.
At some level Hamas knows this, and so the question is why they would do even do it? Is it because they think that using human shields is an effective deterrence? Or is it because they want to provoke an IDF counter-attack against a hospital so they can use it in their propaganda? Either way, it’s a war crime on Hamas’ part and generally terrible for the innocent people in Gaza.
I’m not talking about the law. Laws change over time. Not all laws are just. Not everything just is a law.
So in your own personal sense of justice, is it just to wage militant attacks from hospitals and other civilian resources?
Personally I think it’s wrong to use sick and injured people as human shields.
Neither side is justified.
Hamas hiding behind civilians isn’t justification to kill the civilians.
Edit: he downvoted me in less than a minute, lol. I guess we know where he stands on the bias spectrum.
He thinks Israel is justified in killing these civilians. Wow.
I downvoted you because frankly I think that is a dumb and irrelevant thing to say. The world doesn’t work based on your, or mine, or anyone else’s personal sense of justice, nor should it. That’s why international law exists.
Under international humanitarian law, Hamas using sick people as a human shield is giving the IDF every excuse and legal justification they need to counter-attack the hospitals that they are using to state those attacks. Period.
I would vastly prefer if Hamas didn’t do that. I would vastly prefer that the IDF didn’t have legal justification for attacking hospitals. But what I prefer doesn’t mean shit.
But I guess when you can’t argue against the substance of what I’m saying you can only make embarrassing claims about the timing of meaningless internet points.
Oh well, whatever. Have a good one.
Lol, and you completely ignore me saying “Not all laws are just. Not everything just is a law.”
If you want to focus on the law, go right on ahead. I don’t even know why you’d bother replying to someone who clearly states they are not focusing on the law telling them what the law says.
Let’s be real. You’re biased towards Israel so you argue against anything that criticizes it. You don’t want me to say killing civilians is unjust because it’s critical of Israel’s behavior, which you cannot allow.
Just admit it. You’d come across as more genuine than whatever you’re doing now.
I don’t disagree or take issue with that part.
You responded to me. I responded to you. That’s how conversations work among people who aren’t terminally online.
I was talking about the law because the law is objective. Whether you personally feel something is justified is subjective and irrelevant. One person’s mind can justify anything. Another person might say that no use of military force is ever justified. While a third person might choose to justify the actions of one side over another based on their ideological alignment or political affiliation.
Do you not see that it’s just as easy for me to baselessly say you’re biased towards Hamas so you argue against anything that Israel does?
I won’t make that argument because it’s weak and, frankly, more than a little bit petty and embarrassing. You have to be pretty shameless to go there.
I’m on the side of the innocent, which you would understand if you read the substance of what I’m saying. Anybody who is on the side of the innocent can easily determine that Hamas are shit eating cowardly bitches for fighting from hospitals, and in doing so they are only further hurting the innocent.
Anyway, you’re boring me with this shit. I’m not an IDF general bombing hospitals, nor am I a Hamas terrorist taking cover behind injured children, so take your pent up frustrations on them instead.
Damn dude, you are desperate, even resorting to lying about how this comment chain got started.
Are you getting paid to defend israel right now? Cause that’s what it seems like.
The law says its OK so it must be OK!
Hamas knows they can and will retaliate so they form their strategy to leverage this. And Israel thinks they can get away with bombing hospitals by dumping shit tons of money on pr. What should be done is it should be made illegal according to international humanitarian laws, god knows why it isn’t.