open letter to the NixOS foundation
save-nix-together.org

this thread fucking sucks for me to have to post, but the linked open letter is an important read. none of the systemic issues pertaining to marginalized folks and commercial/military-industrial interests in the Nix community I’ve previously written about on TechTakes have been solved; in fact, they’ve gotten worse to the point where the Nix community moderation team is essentially in the process of quitting. that’s the beginning to an awful end for a project I like a whole lot.

even if you don’t give a fuck about Nix, the open letter is an important read because the toxicity, conflicts of interest, and underhanded tactics detailed in it are incredibly common in the open source space. this letter could have been written about a multitude of infamously toxic open source projects; Nix is lucky that it has marginalized folks involved who care about the direction of the project and want to make things better, but those people are actively leaving, after being burnt out by the toxic people and structures entrenched in Nix’s community. that’s a fucking tragedy.

    • @selfOPMA
      13•2 months ago

      ah, this must be why the lie being pushed now is that it’s really just two people causing all the problems. anything to stop the bleeding without instituting any changes at all!

      I seem to have made the same mistake that @danderson mentioned in #307033. This PR rectifies the issue by leaving the Determinate Systems community.

      This orphans a bunch of long tail packages, but hopefully someone who loves the idea of hunting migrants with Nix-powered surveillance can take over.

      fucking brutal

      • @selfOPMA
        6•2 months ago

        clearly the problem is none of these long-term open source package maintainers understand that open source means Anduril can use NixOS for whatever they like! and clearly that means we have to give them an outsized amount of direct and indirect control over our committees and board, accept their money even when our entire community and several partner organizations tell us not to, let their trolls take over our discussion forums, and set up several shady commercial deals between them and a company that controls a bunch of Nix’s supposedly community-owned infrastructure (which we’ll also insist they have the right to use, even when their commercial usage of it far outstrips the value of their contributions to the community (which, in any case, wants Anduril to fuck off))

        yeah, that’s the problem here

    • @antifuchs
      7•2 months ago

      I love that this milestone is 2 days overdue, but progress is being made!

    • @froztbyteEnglish
      6•2 months ago

      Briefly clicked through the commit history earlier, there’s a couple more that aren’t tagged in the milestone list

      Expect more spin soon, I guess

      • @froztbyteEnglish
        4•2 months ago

        ran a quick search on the repo to check something, rg -l 'maintainers = \[ \]'

        can’t paste the results here unfortunately (guessing post size or lemmy filtering or something). not a very scientific or comprehensive search but I just wanted a very quick look. couple of names in there that I can see that aren’t great to not have maintainers on.

        (note: a more thorough check would also have to check sub-team(?) expressions as well as recent git modifications on those expressions. however, I’m not going to even try do that before I’ve had some food, and maybe ordered some booze too)