• @limitedduck
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    Someone could reply to your comment saying they just follow their municipal guidelines and they could be doing more than someone with a long list of whatever because their government has implemented better climate action systems.

    Grilling individuals on their personal contributions is unproductive because climate change is a systemic, societal issue that is beyond any individual.

    • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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      There is no Government on the planet doing anywhere close to enough to make real impact. Feel free to name any Government you feel is an exception and I will get back to you with a long list of shit they are doing or not doing to accelerate the problem.

      Systemic social issues only begin to change on individual levels. If you aren’t willing to take responsibility for what you are doing to contribute, and simply want to “Blame the system” for everything, you are the one being unproductive and contributing heavily to the problem.

      I contribute less than 1 kitchen catcher worth of waste every week to landfills. I support local business’ who source local materials whenever possible to ensure the products I use make as little impact as possible. I walk everywhere I can, which is basically everywhere up to 50km a day when I need to. I clean up garbage in parks, help plant new trees and gardens, and maintain my own at home to help the bee populations. I use as little electricity as possible, and this is even living in a place that is basically 100% green generated.

      I go out of my way to do everything I can as an individual in an attempt to demonstrate how easy it is to do these things. Every day I am learning and changing in order to be better than I was yesterday and make less impact as an individual. I also have my partner doing all of this with me, so all the effort is two fold. All without relying on Government initiatives, aid, or even permission.

      So again I ask: What are you doing to help?

      • @WhoLooksHere@lemmy.world
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        56 months ago

        I refuse to put the blame on individuals for climate change 100 companies are responsible for 71% of emissions

        https://amp.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change

        There are plenty of things for individual things people can do, but the responsibility rests on corporations for this mess. And it can’t be individuals to clean it up.

        And before someone starts saying that corporations only driven by individual consumerism, what other choice do we have? They literally make things to break more.

        It’s just greed at the end of the day.

        • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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          16 months ago

          Can you please explain how your comment is a response to mine?

          I can admit my faults, and I am actively changing what I do in order to be a better human. You seem to want to blame anyone but yourself so you can remain comfortable and do nothing at all to help.

          I refuse to let individuals off the hook when they choose not to put in the effort to be a part of the solution. If you wish to continue this conversation please respond to what I said previously instead of using my comment to soap box your own points.

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            Because even if all individuals stopped polluting today magically, it still wouldn’t be enough.

            Take that energy you’re using to hold individuals accountable and hold those actually polluting accountable.

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            You seem to want to blame anyone but yourself so you can remain comfortable and do nothing at all to help.

            You seem to be holding everyone but the organizations that are actually polluting.

            • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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              Because even if all individuals stopped polluting today magically, it still wouldn’t be enough.

              Over 8 Billion individuals not polluting the environment wouldn’t change anything?

              You seem to be holding everyone but the organizations that are actually polluting.

              Tell me more about how multi billion dollar organizations can exist without a customer base. I am all ears on this one.

              • @WhoLooksHere@lemmy.world
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                16 months ago

                So you honestly believe the largest polluters will just stop polluting if consumers change habits?

                Because like I cited, the vast majority of pollution comes from corporations. Not people.

                • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                  16 months ago

                  Yes I do. Can you explain how I was some how unclear? This will be to my benefit in the future because I really do not know how I could have been more explicit.

                  Corporation literally means “Group of people”. Your citation is worthless to your argument because it ignores that fact, which also supports my point. Thank you for that and have a wonderful day.

                  • @WhoLooksHere@lemmy.world
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                    16 months ago

                    A) I thought it was up to individuals not groups.

                    B) we can’t even get people to agree the earth is round. You really expect to be able to change individual habits?

              • @Auli@lemmy.ca
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                16 months ago

                Sure it would change something but it wouldn’t be enough to actually change the outcome. Companies are polluting way more then those over 8 billion people are. But yet everything governments come up with is you have to do this you have to do that. I mean growing up recycling was pushed hard on us. And look at the scam that turned out to be cause companies where just sending it to third world countries or dumping it in the landfills. Not to mention the best one is reduce but that hurts corporate profits.

                • @Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                  Companies do not pollute, people do. Companies require people to exist as Companies do not exist independently of anything else. It is a concept.

                  Companies are not people, therefore “Companies” cannot pollute. Groups of people pollute.

                  Don’t be a part of those groups.