• @anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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    203 months ago

    Democrats dont have a better choice because they never hold their politicians accountable. If they did someone like Biden would have never been their nominee.

    The rest of us choose not to participate in electoral politics because our voices do not matter to them, they only answer to the donor class.

    • @JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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      393 months ago

      So instead of helping keep democracy from crumbling to the ground… you’re just going to step aside because you don’t feel listened to?

      Dude… you’re not the only one in the country. It’s virtually impossible for a sitting president to make even half of the country happy with their policy…

      Maybe look up what Biden has done just over the past four years compared to the previous 4. Then read up on Project 2025. Then have some responsibly to those that live on your country that are quite possibly going to lose only their rights as human beings if they’re lucky.

      This isn’t a fucking joke man. Vote and then spend the next four years actually doing the work it takes to make the change you want. I even give you a bit of advice…

      It’ll take a lot more than whining on the internet. It’s going to be hard work. But if you do it right, 2028 could be something to look forward to.

      • @anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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        93 months ago

        Vote and then spend the next four years actually doing the work it takes to make the change you want

        Take a wild guess how many decades I’ve heard versions of this

        • @JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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          243 months ago

          I don’t care how many decades you’ve heard it. I’m 52 years old and STILL doing my part to stop America from being overthrown by a traitor. What I care about is the work done to stop it from happening. Because It takes FAR more than whining online every four years.

          And this happens like clockwork… EVERY FOUR YEARS.

          Then everyone disappears and rerolls as victims of their own irresponsibility. Every four years.

          So don’t tell me how many decades you’ve heard versions of this.

          DO THE WORK.

          • @PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            Im sitting here in a heat dome induced 100 degree weather. The heat is killing my ferns.

            Id say this slow walking of change has already killed us all.

          • @anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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            33 months ago

            I am doing the work by refusing to participate in elections that we have zero impact on. Neither right wing fascist represents me or the people in my circles.

            • @JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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              203 months ago

              So by not voting you’re admitting that you don’t give a shit about Palestine. Because it’s well known fact that Trump intents to do much worse and he’s not even trying to hide it. While Biden may not be doing enough, he’s certainly doing more than what will happen…

              So since it’s not about Palestine, what exactly is your angle?

              • clif
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                63 months ago

                Lately I’ve been partial to Yeats similar quote :

                The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

    • Nougat
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      283 months ago

      Democrats dont have a better choice because they never hold their politicians accountable.

      Al Franken has entered the chat.

      Rod Blagojevich has entered the chat

      James Traficant has entered the chat

      Bob Menendez has entered the chat

    • Frank🦁F
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      103 months ago

      Non voters are the largest most powerless block of the population. Vote third party! Push these bums out!

      • @JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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        163 months ago

        Provide the name of a current candidate that has a chance to best Trump in November. Provide evidence that they have a chance.

        Just one name.

        • Frank🦁F
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          Anyone can beat trump if they get enough votes… So Cornell West is a name that satisfies your criteria.

            • Frank🦁F
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              63 months ago

              Asked and answered. Sorry you don’t like the answer I guess?

                • Frank🦁F
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                  53 months ago

                  I’m sorry the capitalists and fascists have prevented you from seeing potential futures outside of their control. Anyone is viable if they get enough votes.

                  • @JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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                    And he’s not getting those votes. So while knowing it’s not happening, you’re submitting a losing candidate. Purposefully.

                    And let’s not forget that you already admitted that you’re NOT VOTING. So your bad faith suggestion of West is also publicly noted.

                    Calling you guys out is too easy.

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              The way polls are going, Biden probably doesn’t stand a chance. So this point is moot.

              The real answer to your question in all of the polling is “generic Democrat.”

    • @Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      103 months ago

      Republicans don’t either, something that such statements should reflect. I wish there were a better nominee to vote for, but given that Republicans have benefitted from protests on issues that would be handled even worse by them, statements critical of current policy shouldn’t be made without the context of what would instead be done if Trump wins the presidential election.