we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

  • @selfA
    link
    English
    164 months ago

    did you read the parts of the article that describe why the LLM is an issue?

      • @selfA
        link
        English
        84 months ago

        nope

          • @selfA
            link
            English
            84 months ago

            it’s an article about a poorly-designed feature that doesn’t accomplish any of its marketed goals and was hoisted upon Proton’s users in spite of their objections

            this is an article about AI

            • @froztbyte
              link
              English
              84 months ago

              “unencrypted text prompts”

              can’t tell if this is because bond movies or marvel movies or fatf movies or heist movies or … but good god some people just have no fucking idea whatsoever

              the model execution environment can quickly solve FHE in an afternoon, for a treat. after that it has to get back to piano practice tho!

                • @selfA
                  link
                  English
                  94 months ago

                  god, the pure fucking dark pattern of the option that leaks plaintext being the default, with a description that’s only its upsides, while the local option sounds quite a bit shit in comparison

                  also, I keep meaning to ask: does this “free for 14 days” trial auto-renew? cause that’s a real shitty dark pattern too if interacting with the feature starts your subscription. in fact, isn’t that illegal in some jurisdictions?

                  • Steve
                    link
                    English
                    6
                    edit-2
                    4 months ago

                    does this “free for 14 days” trial auto-renew?

                    Proton Scribe is a writing assistant built into Proton Mail that helps you compose emails and improve your drafts. It is available as a paid add-on from $2.99 per user monthly for anyone on our business plans, and you can try it for free for 14 days. It’s also included for free with Proton Visionary and Lifetime plans.

                    You can use Proton Scribe with a Proton Mail business plan: Mail Essentials, Mail Professional, and Proton Business Suite. It is available as a paid add-on to be paid monthly, per user. Proton Scribe is also included for free with the Proton Visionary and Lifetime legacy plans. Organization admins and members get access to a free trial of Proton Scribe for 14 days. The trial starts as soon as you click the pencil icon in the composer. If you’d like to purchase Proton Scribe after your trial, you can do so from your account dashboard.

                    It doesn’t sound like it, but the wording is a little strange in that it is $2.99 per user per month but does that mean that an admin has to tell each employee whether they can do the trial or not? It doesn’t seem manageable to have a free trial that is activated by the individual user but then the switch to paid subscription has to be handled (I assume) by the designated admin.

                    Also, if we’re talking about paid accounts they have the billing info already, so maybe they figure it’s better to provide it in this difficult to manage way so that the automatic rollover appears easier?

                    Now I’m talking out of my ass based on their promo material but it doesn’t change the fact that their standard response is “75% of the survey respondents said they want this” but they release it with this limp-ass “free trial” bullshit

            • @TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              -44 months ago

              The trouble is that Proton has announced and implemented Scribe in a manner that sends up huge red flags for their privacy-focused techie base.

              Proton Mail’s privacy-focused users are worried about the Scribe announcement because they’ve never seen Proton be so vague and nonspecific about security and threat models.

              Up to now, Proton has been serious about privacy

              It’s not about AI. It’s about privacy and communication.

              • @selfA
                link
                English
                94 months ago

                fucking incredible, you managed to cherry pick some of the few sentences in the article that don’t use the words “AI” or “LLM”! good for you, you exhausting motherfucker

                • @froztbyte
                  link
                  English
                  64 months ago

                  they really came out of the woodwork today, huh

                  • @selfA
                    link
                    English
                    84 months ago

                    I’m taking it as a positive sign that the Proton story’s gaining traction, as it should. this thing is a massive fucking security risk and a bad sign of things to come for Proton, and more people should be talking about it.

                    but between the dishonesty on Proton’s part about the survey and the types of accounts that’ve come out of the woodwork to unabashedly support this trainwreck of a feature (the pattern’s especially clear on mastodon), boy, there’s a lot of stank on this one

              • flere-imsaho
                link
                English
                74 months ago

                oh. perhaps you could explain this to the authors of the article?