• @doctordevice@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    I feel like this speech was unnecessary. It only made me feel worse. I need the Democrats, and especially Biden, to stop soapboxing about “saving democracy” and “presidents are not kings” when they literally just skipped the democratic part of choosing a nominee for it to be handed down like a crown.

    In fact, I’d feel a lot better if they apologized for it and told us how they were going to stop it from happening in the future.

    Edit: wow, y’all really freak out at any suggestion of wrongdoing by the Democrats. I’d suggest looking backwards at how we ended up with the current primary process. 1968 Democratic primaries. The Democrats recognized the problem then and introduced reform, why is that such an outlandish thing to ask for now?

    • @takeda@lemmy.world
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      412 months ago

      First of all according to the constitution it is up to the parties to bring their candidates. The primaries are done in a certain way for example Republicans don’t allow to vote for their candidate unless you are registered Republican, superdelegates etc.

      Second, Harris is a VP, she already was on the ticket with Biden. Biden just opted to not run.

      • Billiam
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        212 months ago

        First of all according to the constitution it is up to the parties to bring their candidates. The primaries are done in a certain way for example Republicans don’t allow to vote for their candidate unless you are registered Republican, superdelegates etc.

        No. Political parties are not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution as the founders were wary of the polarization and factionalism that parties would bring- Washington famously warned against them in his farewell speech when he left the office of the Presidency. Second, primaries aren’t in the Constitution either. The DNC and the RNC are private organizations that work to get candidates on ballots according to the laws each state and Congress have passed regarding elections, but they are by no means a requirement. That’s why both parties do their primaries differently.

        The President is only elected when the electors from each state cast their votes after the general election. The states have decided to select their electors by having primary elections, but there is no Constitutional requirement for them to do so.

        • @takeda@lemmy.world
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          82 months ago

          My bad, I meant to say that as far as the Constitution is concerned, the parties can pick up their candidates however they want.

    • @anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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      102 months ago

      The people that keep telling us that we need to save democracy by electing Democrats just appointed someone that has never won a primary, has never won a single electoral vote, came in sixth place in her own state.

      Presidents are selected not elected

    • @spongebue@lemmy.world
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      102 months ago

      they literally just skipped the democratic part of choosing a nominee for it to be handed down like a crown

      How about the fact that nobody mounts a serious challenge against an incumbent anyway, how is that any better? Is it because they were already elected in the general 4 years ago? Because Kamala was on that ticket, too. Oh, and nobody votes for the VP nominee in the primary stage, even if they are second in line. Heck, you kind of have to trust the presidential nominee on that front.