• Cyborganism
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    71 month ago

    When the alternative is a fascist dictatorship? Uhh… gee… I DON’T KNOW!

    • @liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works
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      81 month ago

      They’re dying and suffering either way. Four years of Biden was the straw that broke all hope for anything ever getting better.

      Pretty much all classes of Americans lost all hope according to both general polls on the subject and the massive amount of new credit card debt and historic high records of defaults on all debts, front mortgages to car loans to credit cards to personal loans.

      What do they care about a fascist dictatorship? They’re going to die poor within a decade anyway. Nothing was getting better. From the perspective of a trump voter, Trump at worst was acceleration to the inevitable, with a chance he makes things better.

      Until you people understand why fascists can seize power and how people actually think, you will always lose and require the left to fix your fuck ups. Again.

      • Cyborganism
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        71 month ago

        What do they care about a fascist dictatorship? They’re going to die poor within a decade anyway.

        So might as well drag everyone to die along with them. Right. Things are bad, so let’s just make them WORSE!

        That is not only a very pessimistic perspective, but a very stupid one as well.

        The power wasn’t taken. It was given. The writing was on the wall. People knew what was going to happen. Project 2025 was known and it was what was going to happen. People still voted for it.

        • @liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works
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          41 month ago

          In short, yes.

          Why the fuck would they care about rich fucks like you? What have you done for them, at all, ever?

          As far as Dems are concerned, both the party and seemingly it’s voters, anyone poor and white deserves it and worse.

          If you refuse to meet people where they are and instead dictate how you think their life should be without any reasoning or arguments provided, people will reject you even without a history of explicitly abandoning the working class when you were needed the most.

          Project 2025 doesn’t scare normal people. It’s awful, sure, but it’s not worse. It’s not worse than being denied benefits for 30 years and having to scrape by in mutual aid network of neighbors and family. It’s not worse than being laid off with no available work within a hundred miles and having to just live. It’s not worse than seeing your family wiped out over the last 5 decades. It’s not worse than the US government personally guaranteeing opioids are a safe non addictive treatment for the pain your non union job gave you.

          It’s simply not worse than barely not surviving. Sorry you’re just now suffering. Maybe listen to the left next time when we tell you not to fucking brag about the economy to people out of work and killing themselves. maybe don’t message about trans rights to people that can’t afford healthcare even with the ACA. Maybe don’t celebrate giving another 100 billion to fucking Ukraine when there are people living near open sewage lines and glad to have that right here in the US. Maybe don’t celebrate immigration when you know you’re not punishing the companies hiring the undocumented over native workers or try to 'correct the record’s about how hard immigrants have it to a group thats been economically depressed since before the personal computer came out.

          Life was better for you, great, it wasn’t for most Americans. It sucks you’re getting dragged down to where your fellow Americans are. Maybe, though, class solidarity. Maybe, though, treat them like humans for the first time. Maybe, though, be better than any Democrat.

          • Cyborganism
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            41 month ago

            rich fucks like you

            LoL!

            You completely misinterpreted my comment thanks to your twisted perception. And your reasoning makes ko sense at all. Biden has done so much for the working class and Trump is tearing it all down. This was the obviously conclusion.

            This isn’t desperate people trying to get out of the status quo. This is imbeciles who believed a con man a SECOND FUCKING TIME after he already screwed them over once. And this second time around he had a whole bigger team that would exploit him to execute their white supremacist fascist plan. And it was known!

            So spare me that bullshit about poor working class people looking for something different. It’s a bunch of stupid intolerant hicks who voted Trump because they don’t understand what a trans person is.

            • @liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works
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              11 month ago

              You’re exactly the bigoted type of ‘person’ that needs to learn solidarity before you become perpetually confused as to why you’re always going to lose.