• Look the only reason I brought up my ancestors is that I was explaining my reasoning behind my actions. Admitedly I lean towards the abjectly most bloodthirsty and violent side of my ancesteral traditions, but it hasnt fucked me over yet.

    As for water use of cattle, while it is quite high that has far more to do with alfalfa than anything else. Yet again an issue of factory farming, that more free range aint got a problem with.

    Also I may have mistyped but I meant on the almonds to be in relation to local aquafure use and not in gross total.

    But frankly speaking, I dont give a fuck. If I had to choose between growing my own food or just killing someone and eating them im gonna go with option b.

    Regardless im autistic and most vegetables make me want to cut off my tongue due to their texture. There no way in hell id becoem vegan short of synthetic meats becoming cheap enough for my poor ass.

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      I tend to be bloodthirsty and violent

      No kidding. You aren’t refuting the Appeal To History Fallacy, you’re doubling down even. Cavemen used tribalistically murder and rape, that doesn’t mean it’s okay to do now. You’re smarter than that. You don’t need to do things because cavemen once did.

      Alfafa is the culprit of high water use You originally said vegan diets are worse for water use. I refuted you. You’ve basically replied with “that’s because cattle eat food that use more water”. They still use more water. Every meat eater purports to buy their meat “from the farmer next door”. However pasture raised cattle require longer life spans before slaughter (18-30 months old instead of 13-15) due to a reduced energy-dense diet. The water reduction isn’t that much.

      Local aquafure use is used more in almond production than beef

      Forgetting that almonds (which I suggest people DONT eat) use 50% less water than cows, groundwater was the source of 62% of total livestock withdraws in the US. I agree that almonds are too water intensive, we should shift to soy which uses >20x less water.

      I don’t give a fuck

      Which is what I said at the beginning. The only valid argument against veganism is when someone says “I know a vegan diet is healthier, better for the planet and better for the animals, but I still choose to kill and eat animals”. There’s no arguing against someone who ignores reason to satisfy their tastebuds.

      I’m autistic and don’t like veges

      I’m sure if an autistic cannibal came along and said “I don’t like the texture of animals, I only eat human children and women” we wouldn’t accept that as an excuse.

      • Cavemen probably had better moral barometers than tbh, what with the fact that most Eurosians have neanderthal genes. Doubt most cavemen would want to eradicate the leadership of an enemy tribe all because of a petty grudge built up over a hundred years. Doesnt stop me from wanting to inflict that apon the seventh day adventist, this isnt even family policy thats all me.

        Also at best with the ground water thing and cows youve made me appreciate how fucking useful chickens are, creating constant source of nutrients and you can eat em fucking a.

        Also I suspect the reason vegans are on average healthy is less cause their diet is inately better but more cause they are more focused on that in general, but I dont really care.

        As fore the last one, whatever caused such a scenario its safe just go with it and make synthetic human meat for em.