Hello self-hosters! Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a self-hosted Microsoft Visio alternative, or something at least very similar. I’m basically looking to create infrastructure diagrams for my self hosted server and apps. I already have WikiJS as a wik/documentation solution, but don’t mind migrating to something else if there are better solutions and/or integrations for diagrams

        • Jérôme FleschEnglish
          4•2 years ago

          No it does not.

          Self-hosted implies self-hosted. AFAIK, the end goal is being as autonomous as possible technologically-speaking. Why exclude desktop applications ?

            • chandz05OPEnglish
              4•2 years ago

              This is what I expect from something that is “hosted” as well. I would like to access the hosted app from any machine on my network with a single installation/setup, and potentially expose it for private access from the Internet.

            • Jérôme FleschEnglish
              1•2 years ago

              It is “hosted” on your workstation. There is no need for a server-client relationship for self-hosting.

              By requiring a server-client relationship, you’re making self-hosting uselessly hard to deploy and enforce a very specific design when others (P2P, file sync, etc) can solve the same problems more efficiently. For example, in my specific case, with Paperwork + Nextcloud file sync, my documents are distributed on all my workstations and always available even if offline. Another example is Syncthing which IMO fits the bill for self-hosting, but doesn’t fit your definition of self-hosted.

                • Jérôme FleschEnglish
                  2•2 years ago

                  Yes I would count this game as self-hosted (as long as you don’t need a third-party service to start it). And yes I agree it is a pretty wide definition. But at the same time, I really think there are a lot of good reasons to not dismiss it:

                  • I think it is the simplest form of self-hosting you can do and it is doable by anybody without much technical expertise. For people with little to no technical expertise, it’s the perfect gateway to self-hosting. All you need to start is a backup drive.
                  • For a single person, it’s actually the approach that often makes the more sense.
                  • And even for technical people, sometimes you just don’t want to deploy and maintain yet-another-service.
                  • And finally, you can still access your data when you’re offline.

                  To be honest, when it comes to self-hosting, I can’t shake this feeling that a lot of people are dismissing desktop apps immediately just because they are not cool nor hype anymore.

                  Regarding Syncthing, if I’m not mistaken, the Web UI can be opened to the network (most likely for headless servers) but by default it is only reachable through the loopback.

                  Regarding OP, for me, it wasn’t entirely clear at first whether they wanted network access or not. They clarified it later in comments.

    • chandz05OPEnglish
      2•2 years ago

      Ok I think we have a winner! Got draw.io up and running on my server, and so far it has everything I need, and the UI is perfect. Thank you for the suggestion!

    • chandz05OPEnglish
      2•2 years ago

      Hmm I already have an OnlyOffice server linked to my Nextcloud, but OnlyOffice doesn’t have an equivalent application. Maybe I’ll look into changing the stack to LibreOffice

  • @Lemmyin@lemmy.nzEnglish
    4•2 years ago

    You should check out d2. It’s a code to diagram tool. You put some very simple coke and it draws your diagram. Quite quick and useful. Been using it for a while now.

  • @hexeth@lemmy.caEnglish
    2•2 years ago

    Wikijs supports mermaidjs doesn’t it? It’s a very powerful markup to diagram tool