Can’t escape AI slop projects from meat proxies man. Every single open source project smells like Claude Code recently. Sad times.

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    It is less of a marketing for Rust rather giving it a new name: Slop Language.

    Not because it is slop, it is great but the way people are using it is not very great

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    I’d hate Rust, but Lunduke hates Rust because trans people write in Rust, so I like Rust just to piss off Lunduke’s homophobic ass

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    A month!? A lot of these fuckers pop up just over the weekend, and then are never heard from again.

    Vibe coded garbage.

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    This is one of the cases where the actual thing is amazing but the fandom for it is insufferable.

    There is nothing wrong with Rust. It’s incredible. I’ve been writing code with it for years.

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      I’ve been writing it for a month, already released 5 projects. ; )

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    It does make me sad that Rust is getting so strongly associated with slop. Personally I find it a really fun language to actually program in. The language being expression-based is actually quite handy, and is a concept I wish existed in other languages too. But it is also unfortunately the most sensible language for vibe-coding too because of the performance and guardrails.

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      Wouldn’t it be great to master a language like C while also grasping the logic behind other programming languages? I’m not entirely against artificial intelligence, but it’s completely useless—it’s absolute garbage.

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        I for one grasp C and work with it, no big deal. AI does it well too and is probably going to eat the fun-of-coding out of my job. That’s sad to me but, it’s not useless. For now there’s a lot of stuff we didn’t maintain like docs and unit tests and thanks to ai it’s kept up to date now, not that it’s very important but we strive at just doing more, not being less workers.

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          Yes, you are absolutely right. Regardless of how proficient an LLM (large language model) might be at documentation and coding, it remains just that—an LLM. If you write the documentation yourself, you can craft it in a way that is both engaging and humorous. I am not suggesting that we should avoid using LLMs altogether; I simply believe they should be used with moderation.

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      Yeah well you can thank rust tools that are replacing coreutils and somehow finding their way as defaults. Eza is a prime example. Oh pretty icons but you can’t handle ls -larth, so glad you are in rust though. Rust has had a reputation before the slop.

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        Eza isn’t a reimplementation… it’s its own program. The name of the binary is also eza not ls. What OS are you using that uses eza instead of ls? I have both installed and have ls aliased to eza because I find the coloured output to be easier to read (much like syntax-highlighted code is easier to read), but I’ve never seen eza pre-installed on a system, not does it conflict with ls. Package managers let you install both. They’re different programs.

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          CachyOS aliases ls to eza in fish, which is the default shell there. I love fish but still think it’s a bit weird to use it as default.

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          you’re not gonna get a reply to these questions, because they installed eza themself and also, separately, heard about ubuntu adopting the uutils reimplementations of coreutils, which of course does not include eza.

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    Seeing slopsayers and rust aficionados fight in the comments is like coming across a baron and revenant going at it in melee.

    Hell yeah.

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    I once considered it a privilege to be able to program in rust. Even before, rust code can be quite terse

    With LLMs now, I see code that gives my brain an anneurism and programming anti patterns that I didn’t know existed

    Although I understand why LLMs prefer rust safety guarantees that make it difficult to shoot itself on the foot

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      I’m a professional software engineer writing Rust for many years now.

      Honestly, I am very happy that AI is using Rust. Much better that AI uses Rust than Python! If you think AI written Rust is bad, you have no idea how sloppy AI written Python is.

      Rust is a great language. Turns out the same stuff that makes it great for humans also makes it great for agents. This is not a bad thing, this is a win-win.

      Historically, Rust’s biggest disadvantage has been how hard the language is to write and how much you sometimes need to fight the compiler. This disadvantage is quite effectively mitigated by AI, since you can let the AI fight the compiler and write most of the code. So you get all the advantages that Rust brings with basically none of the downsides.

      I’m just happy that Rust was invented before LLMs. If Rust did not exist before LLMs, the code the AIs would be writing would be a lot worse.

      Hope that answers it.

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        We understand you perfectly well; Rust is fine, too, but no language can take the place of C. I mean, wouldn’t it have been better if it had been written in C?

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          but no language can take the place of C

          Why do you say that? I definitely think Rust can take the place of C. Not just can actually, I’d go as far as to say that Rust should take the place of C. C is much too unsafe to be used in today’s age. There’s really no excuse to use a memory unsafe language today if you’re starting something new.

          It would not have been better if it was written in C. Rust is just as fast and much better.

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            While my comment is about c++, not c, I did learn about one use case where rust is strictly worse than c++. Unbelievably low latency applications. Such as software that trades stocks. The way it’s implemented, is by sharing memory addresses across code intentionally having the same address written to and read from across threads. Something rust is sort of designed to not support.

            It’s the only use case I know of where that’s true.

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              I don’t know where you’ve heard this, but none of it is true. Rust is definitely used for low-latency trading, and that’s actually one place where it really shines.

              sharing memory addresses across code intentionally having the same address written to and read from across threads. Something rust is sort of designed to not support.

              C++ does not “support” that either. C++ will let you write that code, but if you write code like that in C++, it’s undefined behavior and trust me, no low-latency trading firm wants undefined behavior in their trading software (just imagine what could go wrong…).

              Rust helps you avoid such issues. However, Rust definitely “supports” undefined behavior in the exact same way. If you want to share mutable pointers across threads and you don’t give a crap about undefined behavior… I mean, that’s really, really stupid but you can just write unsafe and then you can do exactly what you can do in C++ as well.

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            I actually like Rust too, and I’m not against it; however, C is currently the best-known programming language in the world. Still, I like your idea.

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              C is currently the best-known programming language in the world

              By what metric? It’s certainly not the most popular language. I don’t think it’s the most famous language either. Probably more people have heard of Python than C.

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                Let me ask a question, then: why were the Linux kernel and the Linux ecosystem written in C rather than Python? No matter what other language you might consider, nothing can truly take the place of C; if you are a software developer, you should already know this.

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                  Let me ask a question, then: why were the Linux kernel and the Linux ecosystem written in C rather than Python?

                  … because C is a systems langauge that you can use to build a kernel? While Python is an interpreted runtime that cannot target bare-metal?

                  Rust can easily take the place of C, as Rust can also target bare-metal. It can do everything that C can do (perhaps aside from compiling to some very esoteric platforms). The reason Linux is written in C is cause C was the best option at the time, not because C is some magical language that can do stuff that no other language can.

                  Also, just because Linux was written in C doesn’t mean it is the best-known, most famous or most widely used language. Python is much more well-known and widely used than C.

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            People used to say the same things about the Linux kernel, but its current state is actually quite good. In other words, C is a standard and robust language.

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      I used to program in Rust. It’s a great language. I don’t do that anymore because %99.99 of Rust projects are slop nowadays.

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        What? Are you serious? A lot of LLM-generated text is in English too, let’s learn an obscure conlang and stop speaking English.

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              English is the universal language. Rust isn’t. Using rust is a choice and not mandatory.

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                English is the universal language.

                No, it isn’t. But ignoring the chauvinism there, okay, replace English with any other language that LLMs can speak.

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                  I’m not even English? It’s my second language. You can’t deny that most people speak english including international politics.

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                  I agree that calling it “universal” is both an exaggeration and chauvinistic, but English is the most widely spoken language in the world, both in total combined as first plus second language and it’s by far the most spoken as a second language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers

                  Rust is not in the same position among computer languages. Javascript holds that distinction, with Rust being way down, outside the top 10: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology (it’s still outside the top 10 in the 2026 survey, but the 2025 chart is much easier to read and interpret at a glance).

                  So Rust is indeed not the same as English, which makes it not an apt comparison. One can much more easily completely ignore and avoid Rust as a programming language than they can ignore and avoid English as a human language. They can surely both be ignored and avoided, but it’s much more difficult to do so with English.

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        So instead of fixing the balance with your human Rust code, you instead associate the language as slop because people choose it for their slop projects since it’s much safer and fast?

        If anything, the slop projects working efficiently and not crashing every 5 minutes is the best proof you can have that Rust is uniquely great at what it offers, every language should aim to protect the program from its weakest link programmer which is AI in this case

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          Language isn’t slop. Where did I say that? I literally said it’s a great language.

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        What criteria for using rust is now not fulfilled anymore because slop uses rust? seems like you used the language for gaining Internet points

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          To be honest it’s not rust. It’s more like a mentality thing and probably not logical.

          It’s like not raising your hand because it has become a Nazi salute. The act of raising your hand isn’t bad but it’s associated with a bad intention.

          It’s the same with Rust. It’s a great language and I actually really enjoy it. But seeing so many slop projects with it made me feel bad. That’s it.

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            I really don’t know why you’re getting downvoted here. It seems people just want to pile on. All you’re doing is talking about how you feel and how it’s impacting your actions. It sucks that this stuff is driving you away from Rust.