• 🇨🇦 tunetardis@piefed.ca
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    When I despair about how Ukraine can ever rebuild after this war, my mind keeps circling back to their expertise at blowing up data centres. This could prove a highly marketable skill!

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      A bit sad that the most profitable expertise we’ve gained is blowing shit up and making things that blow shit up. But if it keeps us alive, I’ll take that.

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      my mind keeps circling back to their expertise at blowing up data centres

      You’d be better off consulting the Houthis. They don’t need tens of billions in foreign aid to pull it off

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        We need a per fighter number comparing international aid to Ukraine against Iranian aid to the Houthis. I’d actually be surprised if the numbers were far off based on the size of the AFU and the difficulty the Houthis must have in getting arms after Russia turned off the tap to the black market.

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        Democracy is inefficient at central control and efficient at making sure no single faction stays in power for long. Dynastic autocracy had its chance for several thousand years and never advanced very far past people shitting themselves to death, what with ruling noble bloodlines hamstringing themselves with nepotism and inbreeding. At least with democracy people fixing things and producing food can defend their harvests and reïnvest their profits into free time to improve their tooling instead of getting sent off to kill one another wars no one wants except for idiot lords.

        Democracies are the exception, though, not the rule. Once people think it’s too difficult the electoral churn of would-be dictators ossified into actual dictatorship.

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        I’m surprised Lemmy gave so many down votes, maybe its reaching reddit type users

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      Those bots were just crawlers for yandex search. If you actually look up the report they weren’t accessing or posting user content, just looking thru web pages.

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      People are flawed. Education quality is also a systemic problem which has caused many to not reach the potential they might’ve had. But I don’t think using the R-slur will help?

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        Do you complain about the two I-Slurs, the M-slurs, as well?

        I’m just going to say. Retarded has the most right to exist out of all the words that have been malformed from medical diagnoses that mean “has diminished capacity”.

        It has an actual function outside of being used as an insult, unlike Moron, Imbecile, and Idiot. And should not be censored or have people in favor of its censorship as we’ve already seen the nanny state corporations are happy to implement.

        If you’re wondering why I say this it’s because of words like “Fire Retardent” Or saying something slows things down is to retard it(older usage I know, but it does pop up from time to time in technical documents for things). There are more uses, but admittedly I’m tired today and don’t have it in me to dredge up more examples.

        And yeah sorry that you personally are getting the brunt of this rant, but I’m so tired of censorship on words in general, but especially on words that have uses outside of the insult. I also hate how inconsistent people are with it.

        It’s a fucking word. It’s a fucking word that means the same as stupid, idiot, moron, imbecile, it just hits harder for most. It’s not a real slur, imo. And if you’re using it as a slur, that’s on you and you’re a fucking moron for it.

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          Our engines had engine retarders on them. My mechanic, Mike, said he was a retarded retarder. Self burns are the best. As a slur towards others, no bueno.

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          Not sure what your context and life story is. From my perspective it seemed like an aggressive and vitriolic choice where “stupid” would have sufficed. As an insult it seems to have a lot more cultural weight behind it which is why I called it a slur. Words are all just sounds, it’s the societal landscape which decides what they actually mean. My friends were telling me they’ve been hearing that word used a lot more frequently as an insult than they remembered from a couple of years ago, so I was particularly primed to make a comment on it.

          I am not in favour of censorship of people’s words at the state level. Language is a community project which should be dealt with at a community level. Which is why I said something. I think we should try to be a bit kind in how we speak.

          Now that I think about it I don’t think calling people stupid is helpful either. I feel like a lot of “stupidity”, especially as relates to politics, is about low quality schooling and a social media landscape which is designed to implant and further certain beliefs.

          Yeah anyway, I guess, mostly I’m tired of watching the world crumble around me and would like to start building things so this mostly ended up as a pile of my random thoughts. I hope you’re having a less tiring day today 😊

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            I do understand the perspective, I just feel like going after “Retarded” as a slur is dumb on multiple levels. One, it diminishes actual slurs and what they represent. Two(which I’ve already covered) has actual uses outside of just being an insult. Three the devolution of our language due to censorship is an issue as a whole and this bothers me(Grape, PDFile come to mind as well). Four, its inconsistent with the other words of the same tier and meaning. And Fifth, it only became designated as a “slur” relatively recently which wraps back around to point one.

            And last but not a viable point, there just isn’t a word that is as succinct as “retarded” for something so incredulously dumb that it defies belief, in my opinion.

            With that all said, I hope you understand I wasn’t coming after you personally, you just triggered something that’s been bothering me. Again, sorry you got the brunt of that rant. Even that last part wasn’t for you. Please have a lovely day.

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          It no longer means the same though. Language changes, and the R word is used as an insult equating somebody to somebody with down syndrome (as an example) while Moron and Idiot don’t have a direct correlation to a group.

          While all are still uses medically, there is context needed. Like the test might say your child is in the idiot, moron range. But a doctor will now say they have mental retardation or reduced mental capacity. They dont say hey parents your kid is ‘Re----"

          People still using the R word (as non time related uses) are just behind the times, like when my mom called black people colored…at some point somebody has to confront you and say “hey, this is not how we do things now”

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            Moron and Idiot were the original correlations. People adopted those words as insults and the medical community adopted new words, and then those words got used as insults, and then the medical community adopted new words…

            And on and on and on. Moron equates you to someone with diminished capacity like someone with down syndrome, to use your example. So does Idiot, and Imbecile. As again they were medical terms turned into insults lol.

            So like by all means hate Retarded as a word, but have some consistency.

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              The terms moron and idiot are still used on the test reports, but nobody nowawdays associates calling somebody an idiot/moron with a slur against the mentally challenged, but the R word is.

              Like under your argument we can still call people gay as a slur because it used to mean happy.

              We stopped calling people gay or R word in the early 90s dude.

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                Lmao, sorry, sorry. I just wasn’t expecting to get told, wrongly, about history I lived through. Retard didn’t fall out of favor until the 2010’s, and gay as an insult only started wearing off towards the late 00’s early 10’s which is why you can still see it in media from the time.

                Not sure how old you are, but I found it very funny.

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                  Highschool mid 80s. Maybe I just lived in a more progressive zone, where language changed faster, or people realised it was not couth

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                We stopped calling people gay or R word in the early 90s dude.

                Wtf? Were you not around then? No we absolutely didn’t.

                It wasn’t until the early oughts that it started to fall out of fashion and it wasn’t until the teens that it was considered slur territory.

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                  We did where I lived. Was around the George Michael and other stars coming out, and people waking up about slurs, N word also was dropping out.

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                retard is falling out of fashion, but it is being replaced with “intellectually challenged” and similar phrases because people will never not want a word to describe those that aren’t smart enough to fit in.

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                  I’ve found that its also creates a wall. I know people with mental challenges, but they are always “surprising” great at something. I say surprising by what the expectation society perceives on a person with a label.

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      It is, but the other systems are at least as flawed and much worse when things go really bad.

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      It all comes down to the fact that the human psyche evolved from selfish monkeys, the kind that killed all the other types of monkeys that were slightly different from them. It’s almost like humanity has been trying to solve this problem since the dawn of time.

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        Except this absolutely isn’t even close to true. We interbred with other species prolifically to the point every person on Earth has Neanderthal DNA and Denisovian DNA, among other genetic material we don’t know the specific origins.

        That kind of misanthropic view that homo spaiens just “killed all the other types of monkeys” is toxic.

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            Yes, because of other evolutionary pressures. That doesn’t mean humans wiped them out, only that our species’ lineage survived when theirs didn’t.

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        Dude. Modern humans aee made up of like six different species. We don’t kill The Other. We fuck 'em like crazy

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        No, we evolved to be hyper social apes which rely on cooperation in order to survive. God you people are so confidently ignorant, lol.

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    Just goes to show you that when an administration screws up this big that the other side can win at like 53 to like 44 in certain places.