Love how the headline seems to imply that the blame is misplaced…
Thank you AIPAC Shakur!
Just a reminder AIPAC Shakur sounds good but is rather racist and disrespects the Shakur name dramatically.
It isn’t racist, but it is stupid and disrespectful.
It’s pretty racist, given the only connection to Tupac would be his race. Absolutely not a single other detail is the same between the two. Jeffries doesn’t even claim to have been poor or from ‘the hood’ or anything that might make a plausible excuse to use the nickname.
What are you talking about? The connection is AIPAC sounds like Tupac. It’s literally nothing to do with race.
Cool, so I can call Chuck Shumer APAIC Shakur?
Call anyone anything, no one cares. Just stop your tedious finger wagging.
It’s a stupid thing to say regardless, but I doubt anyone would call you out saying Chuck isn’t the correct race, so you can’t say that.
This is a silly amount of circular logic to defend a racist nickname.
It’s pretty racist, given the only connection to Tupac would be his race. Absolutely not a single other detail is the same between the two.
AI(PAC) Tu(pac).
Race is certainly a secondary factor, however the term was coined by a black man. If you think a black man calling another black man a nickname based on a third black man is racist then you should think calling Stephen Miller ‘Pee-wee Himmler’ is equally racist.
I don’t, personally.
Yeah, black people can be racist to other black people, have you heard of Clarence Thomas or ever heard Jeffries speak at any point?
It doesn’t stop anything.
I see we’ve dodged my other points, got it.
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Its genuinely pathetic that neoliberal dems think this was a smart strategy. How many people need to die for Pelosi’s pride?
They were all just stuck in traffic. I’m sure if they get a do-over they’ll remember to leave early this time.
Yet another complete failure by Democratic leadership.
The vote was rushed. There was a police led motorcade that blocked numerous Reps from getting to be present and vote. Pelosi was ironically honoring vets, in CA, so that’s a fail. And Jeffries could have ‘whipped up’ the vote, so that’s a fail. And anyone could have expected some shenanigans from the gopers, so that’s a fail.
Yet another complete failure by Democratic leadership.
It’s crazy how many bots Israel gives Hakeem Jeffries, the genocide enthusiast. It’s totally understandable when you remember he’s their best paid candidate as well.
Its a small silver lining, but at least they tried this time. Usually they assume they’ve already lost and don’t even make an attempt.
Meanwhile, the GOP is happy to spend years running headlong into failed attempt after failed attempt until something finally lands.
Its a small silver lining, but at least they tried this time.
no, they did not
Democrats didn’t even try in the first place, a Republican brought the articles.
Yup, a Republican that tossed Democrats the ball and our illustrious captain dropped it like it’s hot.
Yeah, but Massey is just trying to wash the Trump stank off before his term ends in January. You also have to realize that Hegseth would have been deemed innocent when the Senate tried him. This outcome is actually better, because Keghead can now be impeached and tried in January when the Dems have the majority in both houses of Congress and will need fewer Repugnican defectors to actually get a guilty verdict in the Senate. Politics is a nasty game, but missing this vote saves the current Dems a little bit of political capital to spend once the new Congress is sworn in in January…if Stephen Miller doesn’t violate the Constitution and stop them from being seated. That’s very possibly the administration’s plan right now. Don’t get me wrong, Jeffries and Schumer need to go, if enough Dems have the balls to stand up to the party leadership.
oh shit thats hilarious
Wait, are you saying, “Yet another complete failure by Democractic leadership.”?
The GOP told you when the vote was ahead of time. Doesn’t matter if it was rushed, leadership’s job is to respond to it and make sure that on important votes, your party is there to counter the fuckery.
This leadership that wants to continue being a leader didn’t step up. But they sure did make sure they stepped up to gut the Clean Waters Act though so there’s that.
The 11 took AIPAC money.
This might actually be a bigger screw up on the GOP side. If they impeached now then the GOP controls the narrative and the process. It could be just as big of a sham as Trump’s impeachments were. So now it’s going to come back up next session, and even if they don’t have the votes to oust him, the Democrats will be able to put all of his crimes into public record.
Sounds like leadership got what it wanted. How’s that a failure?
I don’t think even the rotating villains of capital want Hegseth involved in the military (and its not like he would be removed if this had passed). This seems more an issue of broader failures of democrats even when aligned.
Make the MAGAts vote to protect this asshole
Give them nothing for free
You know, people downvoted a heliocentic system, too…doesn’t change the facts.
Imma keep it real with you Jeffries, I’m going to extend the exact same forgiveness I get from my boss when I miss big work responsibilities because I had trouble with the bus: exactly none. Be at work on time, and then police motorcades won’t be a problem.
I’m up at 5:30 every day, I don’t start work 'till 8. By the time I get to sit down after work, it’s 8 pm at least. There is absolutely no excuse for missing a vote. You leave yourself plenty of time to get there, then you don’t have to worry about being late.
My employer doesn’t allow me to clock in early so I’m never early.
Besides; we pay these motherfuckers full time to be at work maybe 5 full months out of the year?? Make it make sense.
This. If I have a downtime, I have to be there on time. Full stop.
If i miss a shift, i get fired. Anyone who doesn’t show up to work on time doesn’t represent voters.
It was worse the 11 were not there due to attending an event hosted by AIPAC! Fuckers are traitor to our country.
ughhhh
Personally, I’m skeptical that this was by accident.
The reps who missed this seem to have common political alignments.
My guess is that they would rather wait until after the new congress gets sworn in to Impeach Hegseth because the extra time is good for their allies in the war industry, and because they have some dumb political game theory about how it helps them if it happens on their preferred schedule.
I don’t think that 11 similarly-minded reps somehow had an oopsie-daisy on the day of the big vote.
There are only two explanations for what happened:
- Jeffries is too incompetent of a leader to get asses in seats to vote for important shit when the time comes.
- Jeffries is a competent, traitorous leader to have arranged for there to be excuses to have not had the votes.
In both cases, he should be disqualified for even attempting to lead the party. He’s either too much of a little pissboy bitch or he’s a purchased stooge begging to be the appetizer of our meal of eating the rich.
Neoliberals are conservatives. Always have been.
Conservative and Facist, the two political parties in America.
Looking for clarification on something:
If this vote happened and Hegseth was impeached, couldn’t Trump and the current GOP Senate just back-fill his cabinet position before January with no opposition from Democrats?
In other words, wouldn’t it be better to impeach after Democrats have control of Senate where there is a 51 confirmation requirement?
A) Now that the articles have been introduced they can be brought up for a demand vote by the Speaker at any time, including in January when the speaker chances.
B) This is about creating and destroying political capital, as the other user said. Those 11 dems now explicitly endorse Pete Hegseth and the Trump regime, including all of its crimes. It’s on record now, and that record will be used by both republicans and dems against them when they’re up for reelection. It’s a vote to show your hand and your donors.
For (B) I still don’t quite get it because, for example, Pelosi is a lame duck retiring anyway come January. What did she have to lose by voting Yes for posterity, especially when substantively it would’ve led to nothing happened given the Senate vote threshold?
Pretty obvious how badly this looks – I mean Hegseth is pretty universally unliked.
What did she have to lose? Her fortune, her family’s assets, any and all legitimacy she has. While you say she’s a lame duck, she’s still ‘respected’ by representatives in power. By making this stance clear, it’s another thing that can be used against representatives that think Pelosi and her choices have any positive impact on democrats or society - aka, it’s a cudgel people can hit AOC on the head with the next time she tries to defer to centrist dems on something.
Pelosi might be gone, but her legacy of ‘raising’ junior reps is not, and those junior reps, for ‘some’ reason keep doing her bidding even when it goes against the mandate they were elected for.
It would be nice if Pelosi just went the fuck away. She has done irreparable harm and aided facism at every turn.
It doesn’t matter it takes 67 senate votes to convict, he can’t be removed either now or later. The point of the vote was whether Massie gets to make everybody in the House go on record voting whether they support illegally starting two wars, murdering 200 elementary school children, and massacring Caribbean fishermen under no quarter. Which is why a lot of these Democrats sat it out, they were the ones cheering Hegseth on when he did all that shit and don’t want to have to stand by it now that they’ve noticed the peasants are unhappy.
Further proof Jeffries is incapable of true leadership.
Chris Van Hollen is calling his colleagues: https://www.ms.now/news/van-hollen-schumer-senate-majority-leader-democrats
Let’s get the new leadership we so desperately need!
7 calls to help replace Schumer and Jeffries:
- Call Ayanna Pressley and encourage her to run for speaker of the house. She would be a great leader in addition to being the first black speaker of the house - which eliminates Hakeem Jeffries false claim only racists oppose him.
https://pressley.house.gov/contact-us/
- Call Senator Chris Van Hollen and encourage him to run for Senate leader to oust Chuck Schumer.
https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/ Numbers at the bottom of the page
- Call your representative and urge them to support Ayanna Pressley for speaker of the house.
4 & 5) Call your senators and demand they support Chris Van Hollen and oppose Chuck Schumer for Senate leader.
http://5calls.org/issue/house-senate-leadership/
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Call Chuck Schumer and demand he step down as Senate leader: (202) 224-6542
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Call Hakeem Jeffries and demand he step down as house leader: (202) 225-5936
Repeat every day until we have new leaders.
I think people are getting a little too up in arms about this whole thing. This is still the 119th Congress, the same one we’ve had for two years. Impeachment was always a long shot until the 120th is seated.
I actually don’t like that move by Massie because if there’s enough public pressure against a cabinet member then Trump may be inclined to fire them and get a replacement in while he still potentially has the votes to confirm them. That would end in January.
No, NOW is the time to put as much pressure on the Democrats as possible. There’s zero reason to wait.
Get up and arms NOW, and EVERY SINGLE TIME they let us down.
If they keep fucking up, then primary them in 2 years and replace them with someone that will actually show up to work.
The reason to wait is that if the administration sees enough public pressure then Trump could fire cabinet members and potentially squeeze in a replacement while he still has the Senate. We want any removals to happen after January when Democrats will have control of the confirmation.
Yeah, because waiting on Trump to do the right thing is such a great strategy.
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I don’t give a shit. Impeach whoever comes in after too.
There’s always excuses. In January people will keep making other excuses as to why it’s “not the right time”. NOW is the right time.
Senate won’t convict cause there’s not enough Dems. Fine, impeach him now and do it again in January.
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Massie helped show which Dems are willing to be controlled opposition with this move though. I’ll give him that.
We need to keep calling our reps and demand that they don’t vote for Schumer or Jeffries.
Massie continues to stick to his guns and I’ll give him that.
Massie is leaving in January and I guess he counted on some GOP members taking their shot at distancing from Maga after the midterm results.
Yeah, and turns out they didn’t.
And the leader of the Democrats in the 119th Congress is bidding for leadership of the 120th Congress. The point of impeachment being a long shot isn’t the issue here, the fact that Massie introduced it isn’t the issue here, the fact that it was a quick turn around for this vote to advance it isn’t the issue here.
The issue is the complete failure of the 119th Congress’ Democratic leadership when your job is to ensure that on important votes, you make sure that your members are there to vote for it. When you ensure everyone can make time to advance a shitty bill that neuters the Clean Water act then you can damn well ensure that on the vote to advance impeachment of a guy who you’ve constantly said was unfit for the job, you make damn well sure that everyone is there to vote and not pussyfooting around getting stuck in traffic. And that same failure of a leader is running for the leadership of the 120th Congress too so no, we are right to be up in arms about this because if you can’t be arsed to do you damn job now, you aren’t going to be arsed to do the job latter when it actually matters.
The failure from Democrats pisses me off too and I hope to see somebody else as Speaker than Jeffries.
But in the end it was functionally irrelevant to the vote. There were also Republicans held up for the same reason as Democrats, and if they had all voted it still would have failed. Johnson would have extended the vote because he’s still Speaker and the Republicans still have control of the House.
This was just a mic drop by Massie on his way out. We were always going to have to wait until January for meaningful things to start happening.
But in the end it was functionally irrelevant to the vote.
Not necessarily. Impeachments are privileged and handled differently than a regular bill. This was not a vote on the impeachment itself; this was a vote on whether to send it to committee (where it would obviously time out and die) or to advance it to a full floor vote. Eleven Dems and seven Rs skipped the vote, and it passed 211 to 204.
But had ALL the Dems showed up, the vote on sending it to committee would have passed by too narrow a margin, and the process would have automatically progressed the eight articles of impeachment to a floor vote.
They COULD have pulled a win out of a loss, forcing each member of the House to vote on the articles of impeachment individually and thus be seen for what they are, and chose not to.
And again, the fact that Republicans were also stuck in some traffic doesn’t matter. The fact that the vote you think was irrelevant doesn’t matter. The fact that Johnson is still Speaker doesn’t matter. The fact that Massie wanted to have a final say really doesn’t matter.
All of that is just excuses and whataboutism doesn’t address the point that the current leader failed in providing leadership on a important vote, especially when the vote failed by a mere seven votes.
I’ve already agreed that the current leader failed on an important issue. But those things you listed all matter very much actually.
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Cool, more democrats-in-disarray being played up by the “liberal media”.
Headlines like this seem to be missing some rather important details.
Wasn’t this some sort of play by Republicans to try and sneak a vote in, which is why a bunch of people couldn’t make it? Correct me if im wrong.
Seems like something designed to make progressives look bad for asking for representation in government. Isreal must be shitting their pants about losing control of the wheel.
No, not really. This vote was scheduled a couple days in advance, so everyone had time to figure out how to get there on time. One of the Democrats that missed the vote blamed a traffic jam, but a reporter saw him on the capital steps several minutes before the deadline. He could have easily just walked inside and cast his vote before the deadline, but just… didn’t.
