This has convinced me more and more that the only possible way forward that’s not a dystopian hellscape is total freedom of all AI for anyone to do with as they wish. Anything else is forcing values

This dude also posts a direct link to a race-bait bluecheck two comments down, further cementing hn AI threads as downstream frog twitter.

I know this one might be stretching it a bit, but every comment on this post is sneer-worthy, every single one.

  • @Soyweiser
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    154 months ago

    Wow, the AI is selfaware and is just fucking with those people for sport.

  • @blakestaceyMA
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    104 months ago

    No, not the forcing values! :-O

    • @Amoeba_Girl
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      104 months ago

      Truly there is no worse violence than forcing people not to be racist. The Turner Diaries George Orwell warned us about this.

  • @YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM
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    74 months ago

    It’s a horrific tragedy that John Locke should have become America’s (made up) philosopher king after Reconstruction, when Thomas Hobbes was right there

    • @YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM
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      134 months ago

      I just want to draw special attention to the reasoning here

      BigTech, which critically depends on hyper-targeted ads for the lion share of its revenue, is incapable of offering AI model outputs that are plausible given the location / language of the request. The irony.

      • request from Ljubljana using Slovenian => white people with high probability
      • request from Nairobi using Swahili => black people with high probability
      • request from Shenzhen using Mandarin => asian people with high probability

      If a specific user is unhappy with the prevailing demographics of the city where they live, give them a few settings to customize their personal output to their heart’s content.

      Not gonna say anything in particular about that reasoning, just gonna draw attention to it

      • @bitofhope
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        114 months ago

        BigTech, which critically depends on hyper-targeted ads for the lion share of its revenue, is incapable of offering AI model outputs that are plausible given the location / language of the request.

        Hardly surprising given how insistently the ad industry seems to be to show me ads for things I actively dislike or otherwise wildly missing with the products, services or attention seekers it tries to match to my interests and demographic profile.

        If it is indeed true that AI companies just do naive search-and-replaces on the inputs to have more diversity in the outputs, that seems like a really crude and low-effort solution and also way more giving a shit than I would expect from an AI company.

        Ultimately I think the main disagreements between me and hackernewses is twofold. I don’t mind seeing black people, but I also don’t take LLMs and ML image generation models seriously as a tool for anything other than shitposting and spam production.

        • @Amoeba_Girl
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          84 months ago

          Oh it’s definitely how they do it lol, remember the “Person holding up a sign that says” trick.

          • @bitofhope
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            64 months ago

            Pixel art of an adult person female holding a text sign that says adult person chicken.