• McDropout@lemmy.world
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    A lot of people on Lemmy are just… old.

    This thread made me realize this.

    If this bill passes and any of you criticizes China/Russia for banning Facebook/Instagram/Twitter etc… under the name of “lack of freedom of speech”. I will be laughing. A lot.

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      2 years ago

      They already have. Please spend some time learning about China.

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      2 years ago

      Since you didn’t back up your statement, I’ll assign you to the category “Is generally angry and just looks for places to project anger.”

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      So dropout, now that you’ve been informed that China has been doing this shit for, well ever really, are you going to be critical of China?

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      this exactly. china bans those platforms for the same reasons the us is banning this one. they are the same.

      i don’t know why everyone in this thread doesn’t understand what you’re saying. i think its clear

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      The difference is that in countries that are not dictatorships you have alternatives that don’t seek to suck dry every bits of user data for profit and control.

      There are services, like tor, proton, tuta, signal, session, blair, matrix, mastodon, wikipedia, and private and secure OS like graphene, calyx etc., seek to keep user data out of their control and respect user choice.

      I have yet to see alternatives like these in a dictatorship. If so, I would have much less problem about China’s GFW. It is annoying that I have to keep wechat in its own profile, because I have no way to communicate with people in China, or communicate with others outside when I visit China.

      That being said, I am not a fan of countries banning services for no good reason, but I don’t know if I want to make an exception for instagram and tiktok etc, because they are very much designed to be manipulative.

      But I definitely don’t think any countries should ban services that are private, essential, and don’t impose manipulative algorithms, like signal, session, mastodon, tor, legitimate VPNs, GrapheneOS, etc. including wikileaks.