I talk a lot about how “empathy” in commercial UX is mostly a posture because in reality capitalism doesn’t care, but it’s important to consider the additional problem of people in charge who are too shallow to be capable of understanding “why” some people prefer, or need, to do things differently than they do.
This one time I was telling the ceo/founder of a startup I worked for that our react app was making my new macbook pro crawl and we need to fix that because it was a b2b product that would be used by people in finance offices decked out with dell opticrap machines. He responded with surprise “wow, steve. you really care about people don’t you?”
I was kinda floored. Anyway, here we are…
https://web.archive.org/web/20230727121010/https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1684491212219359232
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Freedom means not having a choice in website color scheme.
“b-bht what good is it having the freedom to do what I want if I can’t force other people to agree with me?! I thought I was the king?!”
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Yep, totally agree. I shared this link with no surprise that he’s like this. Just wanted to highlight one of those moments that are a giveaway to this kind of person.
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I like how you put it. When you spend enough time around these people you can hear them drop a lie about their lunch and have enough information to know they will screw anyone over in a heartbeat.
Musk is changing Twitter to be what he thinks is cool, not what anyone else thinks is necessary
If you’ve already set tens of billions of dollars on fire, might as well have some fun with it.
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He got publicly embarrassed by a disabled person, I know that much. But he would have been like this anyway.
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he got transphobic far earlier, one of his kids came out and he’s been malding since
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Nothing is going to change with this perpetual man child until the world stops paying attention to his little tantrums.
The Simpsons song “just don’t look” repeats endlessly in my head.
Probably the best piece of advice the Simpsons ever accidentally gave out. Imagine if we all did.
Thanks for bringing back that memory.
It was nice back when the Simpsons used to be good. Now it’s just celebrity cameos with name drops instead of playing original characters.
That’s not being shallow, it’s being an ableist, like much of society, so lets not sugar coat things.
Dark mode makes me irrationally angry. Doesn’t matter what app or service it is, I just despise it. I can’t even really explain why. It just looks so bad.
It does have a habit of showing up in software designed For Gamers, so that would go a way in explaining that.
Ok knowing that I will be slammed for this but, what’s the problem with not having a light mode?
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The benefit would be less work for his tech team, maybe less lines of code as well. They probably also have metrics on that and know what percentage of users just straight up switched to dark mode, so could be it.
For some with vision issues, couldn’t the “dim” mode help?
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don’t underestimate the work that goes into maintaining two UI themes on that level. Every new thing has to cater for both themes by the designers. Those colour values are easy for devs IF the css is built to accommodate. It very rarely is… and by rarely I mean never, but say rarely to appease the devs seeing this who think they’ve built something that accommodates it.
For the love of… they are freaking twitter! It is one of the most used user interfaces in the world! I think they can spring for the necessary dev resources to maintain a UI that can support multiple modes.
maybe this… thrilling??? discussion of who’s 10x enough to maintain the site theme is better suited to the orange site @traveler01@lemmy.world @givesomefucks@lemmy.world @fasterandworse@awful.systems
I was looking for the mute button a long time ago
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What are you trying to say? That twitter doesn’t have enough money to develop in a modern design system? It’s not a matter of BS mythical 10x developers. Although according to elon all the non 10xers were fired I guess.
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ok, tables and colour values. Sounds good.
Most of the people speaking probably are used to build basic frontend pages with Tailwind and shit and aren’t really concerned about if things actually look good on both schemes. Them saying these wouldn’t free up resources at Twitter because it’s way too easy makes me think these guys are just script kiddies playing at developers, or they just have very good teammates that fix their bullshit after they submit.
Do you have any idea what you’re talking about?
Yes, I do, do you?
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So comparitively speaking, yeah, I’m practically an expert.
Clearly not since you’re saying development of two different color schemes is easy and barely time consuming.
Compared to the backend development, sure.
It’s also not like they’re creating it from scratch, it already exists. The muskrat is literally just saying he’s going to get rid of it, not just not develop it.
It’s not exactly the hardest part of the job… It’s a CSS file with altered colours.
Ah, well, if it’s less work for the tech team, excluding disabled users is a reasonable compromise!!!
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If he didn’t fire everyone except his H1B slaves this wouldn’t be an issue.
nothing wrong with not having one. Having one and removing it because you like the dark mode better, on the other hand? He’s been told that every design decision has to consider light and dark. Just like he’s going to be told that the web app requires more dev resources for browser compatibility testing, accessibility, performance etc and more design resources for responsiveness and stuff like mouse vs touch.
If he drops light mode he can cut more staff for sure. If he drops web, he can cut even more. He will do it.
but anyway, light mode/dark mode are a great example of corps doing something good in the bare minimum way. Before apple or whoever branded black backgrounds and white text as “dark mode” implementing an alternative UI theme based on accessibility concerns on a major web app would have been impossible to get approved.
You guys are speaking in the sense that he wants to keep Twitter as is, but consensus is that he wants to create a super app from Twitter, so the developers will need to design and redesign a lot of what is currently done. If you remove a light scheme from the equation and just develop everything for dark mode development (design, coding, etc) will be faster.
I’m speaking in the sense that he’s a desperate idiot trying to make twitter cost him as little as possible. He’s walking around that hell hole asking for ideas on cutting costs.
For sure he wants it to be profitable ASAP. Cutting development costs will help on that.
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but fascism is a core functionality!
Except if you cut development costs your app will suffer, and thus be less profitable. If people don’t want to use your app because it’s a pain to use, then you’re cutting out a part of your userbase… and thus a source of profit.
I personally prefer it. I’d be surprised and annoyed if it went away.
That said, I don’t get too het up if an existing site/service only has dark mode.
I clicked the button that deshittfied the thread but since that deleted the warning I posted too:
reconsider before having a 10xer slapfight here
Dark mode & Dark side
