And nearly half were never going to vote for him anyway. I want a poll of who was previously voting for him, and now will not.
This one talks about it: https://youtu.be/uMVnhJEDQtg
youtube videos are not polls
Are you sure? I know someone on Facebook that seems to think YouTube videos are irrefutable evidence of pretty much whatever they claim.
yeah, i saw this youtube video about how they’re very unreliable
The like/dislike ratio used to be a poll of sorts.
i stand by my prior statement
He discusses actual polls you can look up? This isn’t a video just saying things it has data
videos that mention data i could look up is exactly what i’m talking about…
gimme the data, not some schmoo talking about how they misunderstand some data….
there are infinite, strongly opinionated, youtube videos for every conclusion that inaccurately represents some sort of data….By that logic any article from a news distributor is garbage. Which while true, you can find the original story from a new wire. Sourcing points is key but having someone write a table of authorities when they can link a video with their thoughts and data is fine
Nope, if it’s a youtube video then it’s garbage on youtube that I’m not gonna watch. A link to a reputable news organization’s website says a hell of a lot more about its credibility, every time.
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In the first minute of the video he talks about the pool done by Echelon Insights where they actually checked the exact same people.
The real headline is that 20% of Republicans think so. Shocking.
“I think Trump should drop his campaign. But if he doesn’t, I’m still voting for him, because I’ll vote for that felon over any liberal”
Biden crime family are felons too, they just hid behind the law by only doing legal felonies!
… or something. I’m not batshit insane enough to understand the actual thought process.
That actually sounds about right, it’s aligned with what my racist family says!
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Trump’s unfavorability among Republicans has hovered around 20% for a while now.
The last poll considered in that link occurred on March 2-4. So the results seem outdated in regards to the recent convictions.
Yeah its going always takes a few weeks for news to become digested and show up in the polling. Always longer than the newsies and wonks think it should; 3-6 weeks some times.
yeah, that’s incredibly low unfavorability.
20% of Republicans in the primaries were still voting for Nikki Haley, likely as a protest vote, even long-after Nikki dropped out.
So this is all within expectations. As usual, the Trump delusional refuses to accept reality. Its up to the rest of the country to band together and vote against him.
Although that tracks with the republicans that didn’t like him before the trial.
Narrator: “He didn’t.”
Yeah there is ZERO chance he willingly drops out. Getting re-elected is his only path out of the hole he keeps digging deeper. Well that or leaving the country for good and living out his days in Russia.
That would be a short stay in Russia. Putin doesn’t keep useless assets around.
edward snowden begs to differ
Guarantee Snowden is still a valuable asset. He actually has a brain & internal working knowledge of the NSA.
Donald isn’t a useless asset for Putin. He directs a large cult of Trumpanzees in America.
Yeah, he’d lose a ton of that power if he was hiding out in Russia.
Eh, he’d probably set Trump up in a gilded cage and forget about him. It’d be a short stay because Trump is old, eats McDonalds, and doesn’t exercise. Only the McDonalds part would change because they don’t operate in Russia anymore.
Now I’m picturing Putin ordering McDonalds from abroad and going through some convoluted process to get it imported
So, basically, the conviction has changed nothing for this poll.
It affected independent voters more than anything.
Near as I can figure, a lot of people who only passingly pay attention politics assumed he would have to quit if convicted.
He’s simply being factored out of the equation by them
If anyone is factored out of the equation, it’s those low-information voters who don’t follow the news.
I wonder who would replace him?
Could be one reason we haven’t seen a running mate yet. That would give them a backup plan if they were already rallied behind somebody else.
Though I suppose equally well, no one had wanted to be committed to partnering with him before they saw how these trials played out.
Haley.
Young, female, minority, well known, and at least somewhat sane compared to the rest of the crazies in the field. And I’m not saying I agree with her policies, but if the election were to be held today, I think Haley would beat Biden easily. Again, this is not an opinion on either candidate or their policies; given the current political climate and especially considering Biden’s continued support for Israel and the genocide they’re conducting, I think Haley would be able to pick up at least some of the disenfranchised Biden voters and win by a pretty good margin.
Haley literally sharpied the words “finish them” on materiel being sent to Israel. Anyone swearing off Biden over his Israel policy is sure as shit not gonna support Haley. Or who knows, maybe they would, I think a third of them are cosplaying, another third accelerationists, and the remaining third severely misguided idealists.
Haley literally sharpied the words “finish them” on materiel being sent to Israel.
Go back over the past couple of months. Take a look at how many people in this sub alone have advocated voting for Trump over Biden because of Israel? How many people in states like Minnesota are threatening to do the same thing? For reasons that I still completely fail to understand, the number of people who claim to be willing to vote for Trump (or at least stay home, acknowledging that it would indirectly help him get to office anyway) is above zero. And even if 90% of them have absolutely no intention of following through and just want to “send a message”, the 10% that do may very well be enough in some of these swing states where Biden won by only ~10k votes, give or take.
Even with Haley’s sharpie (What is it about Republicans that makes them think just taking a sharpie to something actually changes anything?), she’s still at worst a “more sane” version of Trump, which may be enough to make some people who would have otherwise held their noses and vote for Biden vote for Haley instead.
Fair points all around, except I can’t say the “acknowledging it” part has matched my experience. As I’ve seen it, they seem to be more content to shove their heads in the sand and pretend FPTP isn’t real and that the system isn’t set up to keep anyone without a [D] or [R] nomination from being electorally viable. Like, I tend to be very laissez-faire with political discussions if people aren’t using hate speech or blatantly acting in bad faith, but that crowd always has me teetering on the edge of reporting their comments for spreading misinformation.
Predicable Republican Fuckery 2024!
She’s terrible, but far more sane than Trump. I hope it works.
Republicans largely applauded her hateful act.
but if the election were to be held today, I think Haley would beat Biden easily.
Are you taking into account the write-in votes for Trump from people who think tuh meedya is lying to them about him being dead?
There aren’t enough of them in the swing states that would matter.
Most of them are going to vote for whoever has the ® after the name. Only a select portion of them are going to be so far down the MAGA hole that they’d write in Trump instead. Haley would pick up the majority of ® votes, along with (IMO) enough of the independents to nullify the MAGA morons and get her over the finish line.
Why not cite how many people were polled?
I’m a registered Democrat. I would not support him dropping out of the election even if he’s in jail.
There is no established rule that says you can not run for president as a convicted felon.
What I am in favor of is people not being fucking idiots and voting for a convicted felon to be president. Just as the same as I’m in favor of people not voting for a literal farm animal to be president - it’s just moronic. I’m also no in favor of people voting for anyone who’s failed to present themselves as a public figure who gives a flying fuck about the American People or the United States Constitution or someone who may be a rapist or may be a bigot or may not be able to speak or read comprehensively. Why the fuck are we stuck with this guy as an option? Out of 330 million people, this is the best we can do?
Edit: I mean, how is it that so many people are dummies?
people are fairly split on the Trump case overall with 47% saying the charges against Trump were politically motivated
The same half that believe in a flat earth or the same half that believe in horse paste?
lol strong doubt.
