• @shalafi@lemmy.world
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    4310 months ago

    Please use this and don’t make up your own shit on the fly. It’s very understandable both as a rep and a customer.

    • @Bertuccio@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      In a phone conversation with a vendor they interrupted me while spelling to say something like "oh thank God you’re using the normal one and not shit like ‘frankfurter’ "

    • GreatAlbatross
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      410 months ago

      When both ends of a conversation are comfortable using the phonetic alphabet, you can easily hit 2+ characters per second, accurately.

  • @saltesc@lemmy.world
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    “No, I said P! P for pterodactyl!”

    Edit: Though, that said, the point of the phonetic alphabet is they are very distinguishable words that sound nothing like one another. Even making out just “-a-a” you know it was papa, P. So as long as you know how to spell pterodactyl…

    • @667@lemmy.radio
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      1410 months ago

      The NATO phonetic alphabet is incredibly useful, though it does suffer from some issues in similar sounds. During a recent high frequency (HF) worldwide competition (IARU-HF), weak-signal SSB stations sometimes had to spend a few minutes trying to complete a radio exchange because of similar sounding phonetic endings: “Was that whiskey one bravo alpha?”

      “Negative, whiskey one tango alpha—TANGO alpha, over”

      This happens so commonly, that many HF operators substitute other words in the same manner to enhance understanding: common ones are kilowatt, sugar, Germany, America, London, etc.

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        kilowatt, sugar, Germany, America, London

        They’re great substitutes. I always found Quebec to be the most distinguishable because of geographic reference.

        Golf to Germany makes sense as Golf it’s single syllable with yet another hard type O in it. Unlike Mike which could be missed, but the I and K crack/pop are strong sounds.

        Kilowatt is interesting since the ‘watt’ is a backup sound if kilo is distorted. Honestly, Kardashian would be a good one as much as it pains me to say it.

        • @667@lemmy.radio
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          210 months ago

          Kilowatt trips me up still, I’ll copy KW maybe once in ~100 exchanges and not notice. It’s more common during high-volume exchanges. Getting better though!

          I shudder at even typing Kardashian lol

  • @cornshark@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I can’t remember this guide but I remember the Android Phonetic Alphabet

    • Alpha
    • Beta
    • Cupcake
    • Donut
    • Eclair
    • Froyo
    • Gingerbread
    • Honeycomb
    • Ice Cream
    • Jelly Bean
    • KitKat
    • Lollipop
    • Marshmallow
    • Nougat
    • Oreo
    • Pie
    • Quiche
    • Red Velvet
    • Sugar Cookie
    • Tiramisu
    • Upside Down Cake
    • Vanilla
    • Waffle

    There are no other letters

  • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    1610 months ago

    Not sure about why people are surprised by this alphabet. It’s been in use for quite some time in its current form. I work in aviation and we always use this for radio communications. Obviously the military does too.

    • @Maalus@lemmy.world
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      510 months ago

      I personally hate it when I say the nato alphabet equivallent and somebody just gets confused. Like “what do you mean alpha, is that what I need to type?”. Or worse yet, they start using names and end up with the joke from Archer - “M as in Mancy” or other nondescript names for letters.

      • @Leviathan@lemmy.world
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        510 months ago

        For the layperson you have to do the “[letter] as in [phonetic alphabet equivalent]” format. Most people will understandably get confused if they ask how to spell your name and you tell them “Alpha-November-Delta-Yankee”. If they’re not used to it or never heard it it’ll sound like you just started having a stroke.

        • TheHarpyEagle
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          210 months ago

          My problem is that I absolutely blank when coming up with words to use, even if it’s my own damn name. At least this gives me a standard set to work with.

        • @BCsven@lemmy.ca
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          110 months ago

          I guess i watched a bunch of war movies as a kid; because as an adult mid 20s somebody on the phone spelled out their software code using phonetic alphabet, it took me a split second to process the unexpected, but then knew it was the first letter from osmosis i guess

        • @Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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          110 months ago

          I’ll often just say sound-alike letters phonetically but other letters spelled out for brevity. “A-R-N as in Nancy-O-L-D as in Delta”

        • @BigPotato@lemmy.world
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          110 months ago

          I’ve tried that before but I get back to NATO accidentally. A as in Apple, I as in India, R as in… Uh… Romeo.

  • sp3ctr4l
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    1510 months ago

    When I was a kid, I was in a clan for Battlefield Vietnam that took itself waaaaay too seriously, had a good number of JROTC kids that insisted we all needed to know this, the NATO phonetic alphabet.

    We were using teamspeak, had a session where the group leader stood us all in a line, and one by one wanted us to sound it off.

    Guy 1: Alpha!

    Guy 2 (me): Bravo!

    Guy 3: Catholic!

    Group Lead: sighs

    shoots Guy 3 in the face

  • @MTK@lemmy.world
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    810 months ago

    X is X-ray??

    And F is Foxtrot but not just Fox??

    Am I the only that thinks this is crazy?

    • @Philippe23@lemmy.ca
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      “Fox” could be confused with “box”, so it goes with “Foxtrot”.

      Also, keep in mind that everything is a product of its time.

      • @BigPotato@lemmy.world
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        110 months ago

        Fox could also be misheard in other languages, not just box.

        The old joke about telling your German counterpart about nine tanks coming over the hill and all that.

    • JayTreeman
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      It was designed like that for a reason. There’s a lack of one syllable words there, and the ones that are there sound very different. It’s also used for messages that require precision that the average person doesn’t need in day to day life.

    • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      410 months ago

      Not really, but it makes sense to me.

      I learned the phonetic alphabet partly because of the fact that I obtained my amateur radio operator qualification. I’m a “ham” radio person.

      Hearing these on the radio, which isn’t super clear to begin with in most cases, it’s much easier to use this way and almost trivial to understand others when they spell anything over the radio. Given this is the NATO alphabet, it’s used by all kinds of people, from ham operators like me, to government/military. Often in conjunction with some kind of communications system, often but not always radio communications, where the signal might be poor.

      I think the original intent was to ensure that all letters sounded as unique as possible, so even if you only catch part of the word (maybe the rest is obfuscated by static), you still understand the what was said.

  • @CompN12@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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    710 months ago

    My favorite is asking a call Rep if I can switch to phonetic, and then rattling off the spellings when given the go ahead.

    The only reason I have it drilled into my head is because the warehouse I work at uses voice for confirming locations.

  • @AquaTofana@lemmy.world
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    610 months ago

    I have no idea what it is with the letter “I” that throws me off. I’ve been using this alphabet since I joined the military ~15 years ago, and for some reason “I” still turns into “Igloo”, “Indigo” or “Israel” most of the time. It’s just that one singular letter that I can never remember!

    • @Skunk@jlai.lu
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      310 months ago

      For me it’s Quebec and Kilo, even after more than 15 years in aviation.

      Like for spelling my handle here, my first reflex is to say Sierra Quebec uniform…Uuuh no, Sierra Kilo Uniform November Kilo.

      • @AquaTofana@lemmy.world
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        210 months ago

        Glad to know it’s not just me! Kilo and Quebec makes sense, given that both start with that hard K sound and theyre both words associated with the NATO alphabet. I could easily see struggling with that one too if not for the Bloodhound Gang teaching me “Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo” early on in my youth.

    • d00phy
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      210 months ago

      Pretty sure “Indigo” was used in either a previous version or another phonetic alphabet. NATO’s isn’t the only one. I think some police forces still use “Abel, Baker…”

  • @Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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    510 months ago

    When I first started working at a callcenter, I quickly went “oh I need to learn a phonetic alphabet” and printed and posted the NATO alphabet at my desk

    • @Obi@sopuli.xyz
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      410 months ago

      We used to do it with everything but the NATO alphabet. Everyone had their own version, I would mostly use first names, some colleagues would do cities, animals, countries, etc etc.

        • @Obi@sopuli.xyz
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          310 months ago

          Never claimed it was. It was mostly just a bit of fun in an awfully boring and shitty workplace, and got the job done good enough tbh. We’re talking about a call center here not coordinating nuclear launches.

          • @PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee
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            210 months ago

            I worked in armored transportation for awhile and we did this too when checking bags of money in/out of the vault. I liked to choose a theme like “80s action movies” and see if the other person would pick up on it.