The MDHS State Disbursement Unit is the Child Support department. Dude went nuts because he doesn’t want to pay child support. What a POS.
One of their biggest things they’re always trying to do is “discharge” theur child support.
Yeah they are. But fun fact, garnishments and liens work just as well without an INTERNATIONAL TREATY and a surprising number of these loons still work and own stuff.
Yes but they’re their own country, and the USA needs to form a treaty to have say in their business, unless they’re “travelling” or receiving welfare or benefit in some other way
The reality is that they are not bodies politic, have no demos, and every person everywhere ever is subject to the law of the jurisdiction in which they are present.
“I don’t have anything to do with that kid! Why should I have to pay child support?”
Unfortunately I know people like that in real life, who don’t seem to understand that the child support is largely because they want nothing to do with their kid
What if before birth they prove that they wanted the child aborted?
If they are forced to be pregnant with it, that’s their choice.
Have you ever spent nine months with a pregnant woman? They don’t do it because it’s fun.
If they were going to want the baby aborted, they shouldn’t have had sex without a condom. You don’t get to cum inside someone and then tell them what to do with it. Your jizz, your problem.
So, do you oppose abortion in general?
What a person does with their own body is entirely up to them. If you play your part in making that baby, and the person you came inside of plays their part too, you both have to pay for it. The sperm donor has one opportunity to opt out of being a parent, and that one opportunity is when they’re having sex.
What a person does with their own body is entirely up to them.
Yes, but when one person has the choice to not have a child, the other person can express their desire to not raise the child.
If you play your part in making that baby, and the person you came inside of plays their part too, you both have to pay for it.
Why?
The sperm donor has one opportunity to opt out of being a parent, and that one opportunity is when they’re having sex.
Why?
Obviously not. They’re saying that the person that gets pregnant gets to decide whether or not they want to abort. It’s not the decision of the sperm donor.
So, a mother has a choice to opt out of paying for a child if they can’t afford it. But a father is given the same choice.
I only agreed to get my dick wet, your child support contract is invalid
“I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH YOU” is about to be my go to line to get out of uncomfortable situations.
I still like, “YOU’RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR”
“THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE”
I love this assertion by them. Because it’s them saying they are an independent nation. But they are living on or within the US’s declared borders and do not have a treaty as the American Indians do. Therefore they’d qualify as invaders or secessionist and the US military/immigration authorities should have jurisdiction to prosecute them. Afterall, this Sovereign Citizen is currently abroad in another country.
I DO NOT KNOW WHO YOU ARE
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT
Bullshit. You know that mail is regarding the child support payments you’re trying to weasel your way out of.
They are always asking how to “discharge” child support on the sovcit groups.
Is there no counter narrative of unsatisfied customers who chime in on every post to say “I tried this nonsense in family court and the judge took my kids gave my ex sole custody!”
By and large, I think most of these people are just trying to get out of legal and financial obligations. I bet if a government agency sent them a check, they’d fucking cash it. But it’s when they’re required to pay money or complete the littlest forms that they balk. They are just bad scammers.
The best thing about sovereign citizens is they’re the only ones not in on the joke.
And they so persistently do not understand why their BS doesn’t work.
Honestly their BS does kind of work they just seem unable to grasp that all the things they’re saying also apply to everyone else. They don’t have to aknowledge their electricity providers authority to charge them for electricity and the electric company doesn’t have to keep supplying it. Its like some kind of extreme narcisicm.
'Cept in most locales you have to maintain your home’s “habitability status” to not get it condemned, which requires having a functional electrical supply. And usually also working plumbing, heat, some manner of cooking apparatus, and a refrigerator.
“Muh Freedumb!” aside, these types of code requirements were as I understand it at least initially put into place to prevent slumlords from charging rent for an “apartment” that has access to none of the above.
Anyhow, if you really don’t want to pay electric bills it’s really not too tough to get yourself some solar panels or something. Somehow that never occurs to these people. There are counties out in the boondocks where you are permitted by law to live fully off the grid if you feel like it, so maybe they ought to move there and quit bothering everybody with their nonsense.
> Refuses to open letter
> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT
Ok, buddy.
If they don’t open it they can’t have read it and therefore aren’t bound by what’s in it. <- sovcit logic
“Not a US citizen”
Okay, so GTFO if you’re renouncing your citizenship. And don’t use any public roads or services as you’re leaving…
doesn’t US charge you for giving up your citizenship too?
Yup, its an old Civil War era law for folks who tried to avoid dying in the Civil War by moving to Canada. Reasoning was, if you wanted to draft dodge you could support the war financially instead. Then during the early 2000s as folks who graduated college at the wrong time and ended up more college debt than they can ever pay off started moving abroad to escape it, they increased the fee and took other steps to make renouncing more difficult since expats were renouncing their citizenship to stop owing taxes in the US
ended up more college debt than they can ever pay off started moving abroad to escape it, they increased the fee
Short version: USA wanted slaves
to stop owing taxes in the US
I’m not a lawyer and I’m not from US, but I’m pretty sure this is not how it works.
I’m not a lawyer and I’m not from US, but I’m pretty sure this is not how it works.
Ah but it is. The US is, as far as I know, the only country who taxes its citizens who are living abroad. And yes, it is as stupid and shitty as it sounds.
AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED
I am assuming you posted this in jest, so forgive me if I’ve missed the bus, but these are actually very important things to ask for everyone when approached by LE. Charges get dismissed when they answer them wrong or inaccurately. I many cases, they do not have the right to withhold an articulable suspicion, so getting their lack of a response is extremely important, and these two questions are how you get that.
That said, people can also use them to be obnoxious, so I also assume that might have been the joke here. Sorry again. I’m very dense.
Nope. You nailed it. I actually ask these questions.
Lol, thanks, my apologies if my responses was superfluous.
If these people are not citizens of any country, they’d have to be deported to International Waters for not holding a visa right?
Why do they always have the same handwriting?
There’s a certain level of brain malfunction necessary to think this shit will work, and one way that can manifest is poor coordination for fine movements like writing.
Is this the kind of people who post disclaimers in social media that “unauthorize” the company running said social media from using the “content” they post there?
Or add a cc license to their Lemmy posts
