Vint Cerf revealed Google already uses the string, as do plenty of others
    • xcjs@programming.devEnglish
      30·
      2 years ago

      I was using .local, but it ran into too many conflicts with an mDNS service I host and vice versa. I switched to .lan, but I’m certainly not going to switch to .internal unless another conflict surfaces.

      I’ve also developed a host-monitoring solution that uses mDNS, so I’m not about to break my own software. 😅

    • chrisbit@leminal.spaceEnglish
      26·
      2 years ago

      It’s also second only to .com in terms of query volume in ICANN’s Magnitude statistics with 980 mil vs .internal’s 60 mil. Not sure if that makes it a de facto standard, but it’s close.

      • anytimesoon@feddit.ukEnglish
        7·
        2 years ago

        I’m using .home and have not had any issues. Would you mind sharing what problems you’ve come across so I know what to expect?

        • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          The main problem I have is waking up in the middle of the night worrying that ICANN pulled some more stupid corrupt bullshit that only makes networking worse and breaks my config.

          Just look elsewhere in this thread: someone thinks that using .honk as a joke is safe. But what about .horse? .baby? .barefoot? .cool? (I stopped scrolling through the list at this point but you can see how arbitrary and idiotic things have become.)

    • dhtseany@lemmy.mlEnglish
      16·
      2 years ago

      I still haven’t heard a convincing argument to not use .local and I see no reason to stop.

      • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.todayEnglish
        47·
        2 years ago

        Mainly conflicts with mDNS. However it’s shitty IMHO that the mDNS spec snarfed a domain already in widespread use, should have used .mDNS or similar.

        • xcjs@programming.devEnglish
          9·
          2 years ago

          That I agree with. Microsoft drafted the recommendation to use it for local networks, and Apple ignored it or co-opted it for mDNS.

        • x00z@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
          11·
          2 years ago

          You mean mDNS/Zeroconf are using a tld that was already being used.

      • ShortFuse@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
        4·
        2 years ago

        I’ve also used .local but .local could imply a local neighborhood. The word itself is based on “location”. Maybe a campus could be .local but the smaller networks would be .internal

        Or, maybe they want to not confuse it with link-local or unique local addresses. Though, maybe all .internal networks should be using local (private) addresses?

    • UberMentch@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      I’ve had issues with .local on my Android device. Straight up doesn’t work. I had to change to .lan

      • r00ty@kbin.life
        1·
        2 years ago

        Hmm, the only issue I had was because it was using the DoH (which I don’t have a local server for). Once I disabled that, it was fine.

  • Wilzax@lemmy.worldEnglish
    40·
    2 years ago

    Why do I care what ICANN says I can do on my own network? It’s my network, I do what I want.

      • Wilzax@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 years ago

        Well as long as the TLD isn’t used by anyone it should work internally regardless of what ICANN says, especially if I add it to etc/hosts

        • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
          14·
          2 years ago

          Sure, you can do whatever you want. You could even use non-rfc1918 addresses and nobody can stop you. It’s just not always a great idea for your own network’s functionality and security. You can use an unregistered TLD if you want, but it’s worth knowing that when people and companies did that in the past, and the TLD was later registered, things didn’t turn out well for them. You wouldn’t expect .foo to be a TLD, right? And it wasn’t, until it was.

          • Wilzax@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            2 years ago

            Ah good point. I guess a future-proofed guarantee that the domain will never be used externally would be easier to use than trying to somehow configure my DNS to never update specific addresses.

        • Magiilaro@feddit.orgEnglish
          10·
          2 years ago

          German router and network products company AVM learned the hard way that this is a bad idea. They use fritz.box for their router interface page and it was great until tld .box became publicly available and somebody registered fritz.box.

          Having a reserved local/internal only tld is really great to prevent such issues.

          • aesthelete@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            2 years ago

            I agree that this is a good idea, but I wanted to add that if someone owns a domain already, they can also use that internally without issue.

            If you own a domain and use Let’s Encrypt for a star cert, you can have nice, well secured internal applications on your network with trusted certificates.

            • witten@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              2 years ago

              You don’t even need a star cert… The DNS challenge works for that use case as well.

            • Magiilaro@feddit.orgEnglish
              2·
              2 years ago

              That is great when using only RFC 1918 IPv4 addresses in the network, but as soon as IPv6 is added to the mix all those internal only network resources can becomes easy publicly available and announced. Yes, this can be prevented with firewalling but it should be considered.

        • patrick@lemmy.jackson.devEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          If you just run a personal private network, then yea pick anything because you can change it fairly easily. Companies should try to stick to things that they know won’t change under them just to avoid issues

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      20·
      2 years ago

      Certain domain names are locally routed only. So if you use internal or local as a tld, you can just assign whatever names you want and your computer won’t go looking out on the internet for them. This means you and I can both have fileserver.local as an address on our respective network without conflicting. It’s the URI equivalent of 192.168.0.0/16.

    • Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      The value of the DNS is that we all use the same one. You can declare independence, but you’d lose out on that value.

    • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Well, I just realized I completely goofed, because I went with .arpa instead of .home.arpa, due to what was surely not my own failings.

      So I guess I’m going to be changing my home’s domain anyway.

    • subtext@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      It was just always so annoying having to go into the iPhone keyboard punctuation twice for each domain

  • Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyzBEnglish
    19·
    1 year ago

    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    CA (SSL) Certificate Authority
    DNS Domain Name Service/System
    HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
    HTTPS HTTP over SSL
    IP Internet Protocol
    SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
    TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL
    VPN Virtual Private Network

    6 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

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