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Five@slrpnk.net to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Weaponizing ordinary devices violates international law, United Nations rights chief says

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Weaponizing ordinary devices violates international law, United Nations rights chief says

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Five@slrpnk.net to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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The United Nations human rights chief says weaponizing ordinary communication devices represents a new development in warfare.
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    Honestly, the real question to me is how many innocent people were maimed, injured, or killed in this attack. This is incredibly indiscriminate, even though the idea is that only the bad guys are holding the pages or walkie-talkies, but if they’re in a cafe they’re not the only ones getting hurt. Think of it as attaching an explosive to a thousand Hezbollah people, and then exploding them as they wander through a city. That’s the true crime, the potentially disproportionate massacre of innocent civilians.

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      Honestly, the real question to me is how many innocent people were maimed, injured, or killed in this attack.

      Quite a bit fewer than 0.1% of the individual detonations appear to have harmed anyone except the Hezbollah operative assigned to the pager, so this doesn’t actually appear to be a question. The attack was extremely discriminate and targeted.

      but if they’re in a cafe they’re not the only ones getting hurt.

      In every case in which one of these went off in a cafe, the intended target was the only one hurt.

      That’s the true crime, the potentially disproportionate massacre of innocent civilians.

      But that isn’t what happened. The opposite happened.

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        Ok, I’m sure it’s all as you say. 5 days old account that is totally not suspicious.

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          Defending Israel on Lenny leads to banning, it’s happened several times

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            lol good

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        Says who?

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          Says Hezbollah, and all reporting from Lebanon.

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        All numbers to you eh?

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          I can’t have sympathy for murderous antisemites

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            Looks like murders of innocent civilians were done by semites… As it’s most often the case.

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              A collateral civilian death during a military action has never been considered “murder.” It can’t be, since it’s unintentional.

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                There has been quite a lot of collateral civilian casualties, how many more people must die and how many more people must suffer under poverty in the name of the great American empire?

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                  There has been quite a lot of collateral civilian casualties, how many more people must die

                  None, if Israel’s enemies surrender and end the war. That’s how war works.

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                    Do you genuinely think thats how the world work? Not Israel nor the Israeli people will ever know peace as long as Israel exists as an extension of the American Empire. If all of Israels enemies surrender then the American Empire will simply create new enemies for them to fight in their perpetual endless war.

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                Just completely ignore the concept of proportional response and the Principle of Proportionality.

                If you’re going to pretend to be an expert on international law…

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                  1000 militants per civilian meets every definition of proportionate

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                    In Gaza? Yeah, no. The reply was in response to OP and my reply was to that reply. We are talking about Gaza here.

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            Not murder, by your logic.

            https://a.lemmy.world/lemmy.world/comment/12495954

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              They’ve targeted civilians, including 40 people at a US Embassy.

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                Both sides have.

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                  Removed by mod

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                    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68006126

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      Agree, I am incredibly disturbed by the nature of this attack and the implications for how other countries might use this idea.

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