• Funderpants
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    1416 months ago

    Hey, good for him. I believe firmly in reformation, or reflection and changing your views and it sounds to me like he thought about it and came around, so good.

    • @jayk@lemmy.ca
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      556 months ago

      this is the second time he’s changed his mind on this particular issue. After a certain point I wonder why we’re still listening to him

      • @Notyou@sopuli.xyz
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        506 months ago

        I think he was trying to get a buzz for his stand-up by going anti-woke. Then those people didn’t show up for him because they are still laughing at Rob Schneider.

        After Jerry realized his mistake, he figured he would say he grew and learned to help any damage control. I don’t think people really care enough about him for this, but he is rich enough to have people tell him.

        • @krashmo@lemmy.world
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          86 months ago

          What mistake would he need to be concerned about? Jerry has more money than he can spend. I seriously doubt his income is a motivating factor here but I could be wrong.

          • @Notyou@sopuli.xyz
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            26 months ago

            I was thinking about it through the lens of his PR people and long term. He’s was very popular and has a bunch of money. He doesn’t need to do anything. His PR team is thinking, what about any future money?

            His mistake was exactly what he apologized for. Did you read it? It was about not adapting comedy to the audience and time. He mentioned ski slopes and stuff too. That is what I was referring to.

      • @saltesc@lemmy.world
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        76 months ago

        To be fair, it’s a complicated topic. Some people see humour as a form of therapy or control over dark topics while others see it as a channel to project them. And both are true. Unfortunately many people lack the spark to discern the two and subsequently fall back on the behaviour they are familiar with; picking a side and setting up camp in it.

      • bean
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        46 months ago

        He’s a total asshole. He may have had the show, but standup isn’t funny and his personal life and stances are questionable. I’d be glad if he just disappeared without a peep. That whiny nasally “I hate everything boo hoo” attitude.

    • Hegar
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      246 months ago

      sounds to me like he thought about it and came around

      That’s not what it sounds like to me. I think a slightly different kind of absolute nonsense just started coming out of his face:

      “I said that the ‘extreme left’ has suppressed the art of comedy… It’s not true. If you’re a champion skier, you can put the gates anywhere you want on the mountain and you’re going to make the gate. That’s comedy. Whatever the culture is, we make the gate. You don’t make the gate, you’re out of the game. The game is where is the gate and how do I make the gate to get down the hill.”

      Even you generously interpret that as coherent thought, he’s still saying that the left changed comedy and you can’t make same jokes anymore. No awareness that risky and ‘offensive’ comedy is fine and everywhere, no awareness that there’s a difference between offensive comedy and racism on a stage, no awareness of the social context of his comments amidst the rise of fascism.

      He just repeated his comments, but less coherently and with the strongly negative words taken out.

  • Lido
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    536 months ago

    Jerry Seinfeld has never been politically relevant and hasn’t suffered in the least because of his Seinfeld residuals.

    Bill Hicks (RIP) has never been more relevant.

    • @Sarmyth@lemmy.world
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      626 months ago

      His show was a cultural phenomenon. You’ve never heard of the least funny comedian. Let’s stop the weird Lemmy contrarianism. It makes us look more insanely out of touch than Jerry Seinfeld. (Which is so well known his name is in my auto-correct).

      • @blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world
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        206 months ago

        I absolutely loved Seinfeld (the show) and recently saw his stand up in person and it was absolutely terrible, it was actually pretty shocking. He’s just so incredibly unrelatable now.

      • I wouldn’t say that’s contrarianism. I’ve heard criticism for Jerry Seinfeld’s comedy since at least 2004, calling out observation comics as a whole was trending at the time of his show even. Larry David made that show great, and some of the cast played their roles really well, Jerry Seinfeld wasn’t one of them for me and seemingly a lot of people.

        • @acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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          I wouldn’t say that’s contrarianism. I’ve heard criticism for Jerry Seinfeld’s comedy since at least 2004, calling out observation comics as a whole was trending at the time of his show even.

          all of that can be considered contrarianism too. It was easy to shit on observational humor because Seinfeld was the most popular comedy at the time.

          Larry David made that show great, and some of the cast played their roles really well, Jerry Seinfeld wasn’t one of them for me and seemingly a lot of people.

          the character Jerry was the straight man, so if you only watched the show Jerry (the actor/comedian) had an uphill battle to seem as funny as Kramer, George, Elaine, etc.

      • Ginny [they/she]
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        I don’t think the contrarianism is Lemmy specific. Whenever someone becomes problematic for whatever, there’ll always be people taking to twitter or whatever to say “well they were never really that good anyway”. And it is almost always just a cope, except in the specific case of Rob Schneider.

    • thermal_shock
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      66 months ago

      I think he had one or two good lines in the show. but the other three carried that shit like their lives depended on it.

  • @Jomega@lemmy.world
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    446 months ago

    I never understood why he would say that to begin with. It’s not like his brand of comedy was ever particularly edgy. Obviously the “people are too sensitive these days” thing is stupid, but it felt extra strange coming from him.

    • @krashmo@lemmy.world
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      166 months ago

      People are too sensitive these days though. The problem is that no one agrees what it’s important to be sensitive about while simultaneously looking for reasons to be offended on behalf of others.

  • @reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net
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    176 months ago

    I agree that comedy is an area that rarely ages well. If you look at the old post 9/11 HBO comedy spots on MAX they are atrociously racist against middle eastern people to the point where I don’t think they should be available or at least should be labeled history and not comedy.

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      166 months ago

      Yeah but Jerry got mad that he wasn’t allowed to tell racist, transphobic, and highly political jokes like a year ago. And he got drawn into the MAGA crowd like a tractor beam, being sponsored by out of touch old fogeys and anti-woke propagandists.