Why should someone get more of a benefit because they spend more on food? Why does the person who brought a tasty snack and doesn’t wolf down cold McDonalds not get to take advantage of a monetary benefit provided to other workers?
And I ask again, did they make sure the people that took the vouchers spent all of it on food, or are they only picking on people who weren’t smart enough to keep quiet about spending it on other things?
There’s a lot of context we’re missing here. For example this happens with my company and the reason is tax implications - if they provided “free money” that would be additional salary and taxed as such, whereas “free meals” are taxed completely differently. There could be completely legitimate reasons. Maybe if they let people use it for whatever purpose, the $25 would turn into $15 due to tax.
What I won’t defend is firing people for this reason. I don’t see how that can be ethically acceptable…
Yes, i though this, too, but usually companies address this by issueing vouchers that can be only be used for certain businesses or products. This makes sure, the expense shows up as food on the invoice. Nobody cares if employees find a loophole to buy non-food. The company issued food vouchers. That will do.
Every company I’ve worked for either gave us digital gift cards or, when I was a manager, let us charge meals specifically to our business credit card for a certain amount per month (team outings) without prior approval.
And with a normal org, they’d simply revoke the benefit and maybe take a penalty from the employee’s future paychecks. Firing someone over such a small benefit is ridiculous and only makes sense if they’re actively looking for ways to cut headcount w/o paying severance or unemployment.
Someone making 400,000 a year who has no need to risk their job for 25 dollars mentioned it off hand to HR. One could infer that the policies were unclear and the reaction was overkill.
Oh ho ho, looks like we got a haaaaard worker over here. Yeah dude, I’m a trust fund baby 10 million dollar loan from my father to open my professional esport beenie baby collection company that I hired someone else to run and yet still have an adversity to bootlicking bosses.
Or, I’m a regular guy who also still hates bootlicking abused of power.
Lick lick slurp slurp but it sounds to me like you moved on from the boot ifyouknowwhatimsayin.
Here’s your argument then. The very nature of the relationship between worker and boss under current capitalist economics is inherently exploitative. To further use that leveraged position as a cudgel when a worker does not use a gift you give them in the exact way you wanted is morally evil. The money is budgeted, the intent is irrelevant.
Defending this is a defense of a evil action in an inherently oppressive and exploitative situation already. Only someone who has done similar, or someone who feels the need to become the devils advocate would defend it. Neither of those people deserve to have their opinion respected, just as they, you, don’t respect the workers position or the scummyness of the action itself.
This argument will not convince you, because you have already sided with the boot and your tongue is glued to it.
I was mostly implying you’re a lazy slob. Kind of interesting you apparently think you come across as rich. Says a lot about the type of person you are.
The severity of punishment does not match the severity of violating the policy. We’ve already figured this idea out in real life and across numerous genres of fiction that at this point is a common trope. It’s literally a sci-fi trope at this point of the paradise planet that everyone loves but the biggest flaw is that any infraction against the law however minor is tje death penalty. The concept of fair punishments is literally baked into the constitution through the bill of rights with the 8th amendment, no cruel and unusual punishments, no excessive bail or excessive fines.
If it was made clear that it was only to be used for food and to only use while you were at the office, then fine. Harsh, but whatever.
Stupid policy is stupid.
Are they requiring receipts from those that follow the directions to make sure they spend all $25 on lunch?
It’s for food.
It’s the rules for receiving the funds. Don’t like it, don’t accept the funds.
What a load of crap.
Why should someone get more of a benefit because they spend more on food? Why does the person who brought a tasty snack and doesn’t wolf down cold McDonalds not get to take advantage of a monetary benefit provided to other workers?
And I ask again, did they make sure the people that took the vouchers spent all of it on food, or are they only picking on people who weren’t smart enough to keep quiet about spending it on other things?
There’s a lot of context we’re missing here. For example this happens with my company and the reason is tax implications - if they provided “free money” that would be additional salary and taxed as such, whereas “free meals” are taxed completely differently. There could be completely legitimate reasons. Maybe if they let people use it for whatever purpose, the $25 would turn into $15 due to tax.
What I won’t defend is firing people for this reason. I don’t see how that can be ethically acceptable…
Yes, i though this, too, but usually companies address this by issueing vouchers that can be only be used for certain businesses or products. This makes sure, the expense shows up as food on the invoice. Nobody cares if employees find a loophole to buy non-food. The company issued food vouchers. That will do.
Every company I’ve worked for either gave us digital gift cards or, when I was a manager, let us charge meals specifically to our business credit card for a certain amount per month (team outings) without prior approval.
If that is the case the Meta set themselves up for failure for some tax breaks and is taking it out on their employees.
No, they’re using this as an excuse to cull the workforce.
In most orgs, this would merely result in losing access to the benefit.
It can be both, since the vouchers have existed for years and are only now getting scrutiny.
And with a normal org, they’d simply revoke the benefit and maybe take a penalty from the employee’s future paychecks. Firing someone over such a small benefit is ridiculous and only makes sense if they’re actively looking for ways to cut headcount w/o paying severance or unemployment.
Exactly. If they abuse the benefit, withdraw the benefit.
Someone making 400,000 a year who has no need to risk their job for 25 dollars mentioned it off hand to HR. One could infer that the policies were unclear and the reaction was overkill.
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Lick lick lick slurp is all I see with this comment.
“I have no idea what income taxes are because I’ve never worked in my life” is what I see here.
Oh ho ho, looks like we got a haaaaard worker over here. Yeah dude, I’m a trust fund baby 10 million dollar loan from my father to open my professional esport beenie baby collection company that I hired someone else to run and yet still have an adversity to bootlicking bosses.
Or, I’m a regular guy who also still hates bootlicking abused of power.
Lick lick slurp slurp but it sounds to me like you moved on from the boot ifyouknowwhatimsayin.
Good arguments.
Here’s your argument then. The very nature of the relationship between worker and boss under current capitalist economics is inherently exploitative. To further use that leveraged position as a cudgel when a worker does not use a gift you give them in the exact way you wanted is morally evil. The money is budgeted, the intent is irrelevant.
Defending this is a defense of a evil action in an inherently oppressive and exploitative situation already. Only someone who has done similar, or someone who feels the need to become the devils advocate would defend it. Neither of those people deserve to have their opinion respected, just as they, you, don’t respect the workers position or the scummyness of the action itself.
This argument will not convince you, because you have already sided with the boot and your tongue is glued to it.
I was mostly implying you’re a lazy slob. Kind of interesting you apparently think you come across as rich. Says a lot about the type of person you are.
The severity of punishment does not match the severity of violating the policy. We’ve already figured this idea out in real life and across numerous genres of fiction that at this point is a common trope. It’s literally a sci-fi trope at this point of the paradise planet that everyone loves but the biggest flaw is that any infraction against the law however minor is tje death penalty. The concept of fair punishments is literally baked into the constitution through the bill of rights with the 8th amendment, no cruel and unusual punishments, no excessive bail or excessive fines.