• @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    123 days ago

    Why paying for no longer having an ad free experience, if you can have a really ad free YouTube for free?

  • @mhague@lemmy.world
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    213 days ago

    Ads have started to straight up break the internet for me. I can go to websites and they’ll complain about my ad blocker, and the only help I get is “disable your extensions.” I don’t even have any extensions! No ad block! But sites still curl up and die on me.

    Is it because my browser is hardened? Is it Linux? Do I have to fork over private data to use a site and if I don’t they pretend the issue is ad blockers?

  • @Soup@lemmy.world
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    104 days ago

    I ended up paying for it because, frankly, expecting Youtube to be completely free and fighting how it could be paid for is kinda crazy. We’re just used to it being free but running Youtube is expensive. I watch hours of Youtube nearly every day and don’t use Crunchyroll nearly as much so why am I ok paying for that but not Youtube?

    Yes, if they do actually start pushing ads then I’m going to wonder what the hell I’m paying for but for the time being I’m ok with paying for a service. I only started paying for it recently, to be fair, but I get it.

    • @saigot@lemmy.ca
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      52 days ago

      If you want YouTube to keep existing, you should pay for it. That’s why I use adblocker.

      • @Soup@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        So you don’t want it to keep existing(use of ad blocker because you don’t pay for it) but still use it because you…don’t like it? There’s always Nebula if you want to make a point, but not if your point is that you’re an entitled little weirdo.

      • @csm10495@sh.itjust.works
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        12 days ago

        So you don’t want a free place to upload videos? … why? Is it just because it’s Google or too big or why?

        I love the idea of a free place to upload videos, I just wish there was a way without as many ads or with a cheaper ad free prem.

    • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      53 days ago

      Give an inch, they take a mile

      Instead of trying to make money, they should be looking at how to operate without it

      Peertube is an example of figuring this out

      • @Soup@lemmy.world
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        63 days ago

        How to operate without money? Hosting countless hours of high-quality video on demand and streaming it to your computer at highspeed? Are you high?

        I had never heard of Peertube before your comment and it sounds great! It also puts a lot on the content creator, though, and regardless of whether Youtube should follow that model or not how would you expect them to make that change? Just suddenly tell every creator that they must start self-hosting? Genius, that’ll go over so well!

        Peertube themselves are saying that they don’t want to replace Youtube, simply to offer alternatives and choice(which I’m cool with).

        • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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          33 days ago

          The transition would be saving videos users watch on their devices not just creators

          However it’s just one path, if Google’s engineers find a better solution then they can do that.

        • @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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          13 days ago

          How to operate without money?

          Have the public libraries host the peoples internet. There are options if you can think outside your little Gmail inbox.

          • @Soup@lemmy.world
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            12 days ago

            I don’t use Gmail, and in fact my email isn’t attached to any big company. I know you couldn’t have known that but still.

            So now you want to shift all this content onto poorly funded public libraries? Do you have any idea how difficult all that would be? Do you have any idea how much content is on Youtube? And that’s not to mention how much bandwidth a person would need to be able to send out the content they’re hosting to tens of thousands of people at once.

            You’re living in a dreamland. Other options can start these things from scratch but Youtube is not about to make their system infinitely more complex and unreliable just for you and the small handful of other people who are high on their tiny corner of the internet. You’re asking me to think and you haven’t done the bare basics of it yourself.

    • @FelixCress@lemmy.world
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      It depends how many hours per month you use it I guess.

      I am fine paying for Netflix (it is quite cheap here as well) which I watch probably at least 20-30 hours per month but not for youtube which I use for the music maybe an hour per week or less.

      YouTube frequency of commercials is unacceptable. If they were to play a commercial every half an hour or so, I would say it is too often but I would understand it.

      They don’t, they try to play a commercial every other song start, so every 7-10 minutes. They are taking a piss.

      • @Soup@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        I don’t get any commercials now and I use it for all kinds of stuff from educational videos to hours and hours of things like D&D streams. It’s all worth it.

        You pay nothing for it and complain about commercials. I don’t want to go shilling for corporations but whining about Youtube paying the bills is just sad, bud.

      • @Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        164 days ago

        At the end of the day, Google is just going to double dip and take your money, and still sell your data.

        They are, first and foremost, an ad company. Their money maker is the data they get from you; your viewing habits and whatever they can scrape from your computer.

      • no banana
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        edit: for context, I have 7000 hours of uninterrupted streaming on YouTube. It’s been well worth the cost to me. But this is with the model being ad-free. If that ever changed I would need to re-evaluate my position, but I do like that my subscription can give support to creators (support which is larger per view than that of an ad user) at the same time.

  • @Rin@lemm.ee
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    444 days ago

    I will not use youtube and use ads. The sooner they break my adblocker, the sooner i won’t be on their platform

    • @Aermis@lemmy.world
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      214 days ago

      I really don’t think they understand this… If an ad starts playing on YouTube I just turn it off and see why my ad blocker isn’t working. If it doesn’t work I simply don’t watch the video. I had no desire to switch to Firefox because Chrome was just working for me, but then it didn’t work. There’s no way in hell I’m sitting here with my adhd addled brain, with my 4 year old phone in my hands watching for 30 seconds why I need a brand new acura.

      The only time I’ve ever willingly watched an ad was tiktok. Because they know I can simply swipe and skip it, but sometimes the sponsored content is creative and entertaining.

      • @Joeffect@lemmy.world
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        23 days ago

        google just made it so ad blockers using their engine will not work the same… probably why it was working fine then it didn’t

      • HobbitFoot
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        153 days ago

        They do understand it. They just believe the number of people who will do it are small enough to be worth it.

        • @Aermis@lemmy.world
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          33 days ago

          I guess. And you might be right. But the end goal of enshittifying everything is going to bottle out into unusable tech and the death of innovation.

        • @OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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          33 days ago

          And sadly, they’re probably right. Just look at how many people are willing to sit there mindlessly absorbing messages from their corporate masters.

      • You’re part of less than 10% of the people watching YouTube, and you’re in a 10% they won’t care about because you aren’t making them money anyhow.

  • N.E.P.T.R
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    163 days ago

    YouTube is a monopoly. The reason no one really uses multiple platforms to upload videos at the same level as YouTube is because it was run for a long time at a lose to push out all competition. I have no simpthy.

  • @SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world
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    I didn’t use adblockers when they had occasional normal ad breaks. Now when I have to watch on a TV app its just a garbage experience.

  • @1984@lemmy.today
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    Supporting the creators, yeah, because thats what Google built their empire on top of.

    Caring about people.

    • no banana
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      33 days ago

      Actually the premium user is worth more to creators because a premium user gives them a bigger slice than ad users.

    • TuxOP
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      194 days ago

      Most creaters (even smaller ones) doesn’t care about revunue (YT creaters get paid if they’re in YPP) loss from adblockers and lm pretty sure YouTubers also use adblock instead of paying Premium

  • Ngl, I run Firefox and the usual suite of adblockers and haven’t experienced any issues. I do the same on my phone (Firefox in “desktop mode”).