• Snot Flickerman
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    1 month ago

    We get it, no matter how many times people get fucked by venture capital pushing enshittification, most people don’t actually care enough about the issues at hand to deal with even the minor discomfort of learning something new that isn’t highly polished. They’ll take getting fucked by corporations every time.

    Edit: lol

    • @dance_ninja@lemmy.world
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      571 month ago

      It’s not about “minor discomfort.” The Fediverse has too much UX friction for someone that isn’t in tech/used to a product that isn’t mature in features or content. Even if they are fine with that, they need to spend time to figure out what server(s) to trust, or at least an organization they can sue if things go wrong.

      Ranting about “normies” instead of listening and understanding what their needs and concerns are is not conducive to growth, but it’ll certainly help it decay.

        • @starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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          91 month ago

          Lemmevangelists really like the email analogy because they think literally anyone knows or cares how email works. 99% of people lose you the moment you say the word “protocol”

          • @JaymesRS@literature.cafe
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            41 month ago

            The vast majority of email address domains aren’t chosen, they come from your ISP, Cell phone/computer OS manufacturer, or employer/school. That’s the opposite of the fedeverse account creation process.

      • Chloé 🥕
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        and when they do figure out the unintuitive UX, they’re met with an avalanche of reply guys and, if they’re Black, a fuckload of overt and covert racism that everyone else will ignore…

        there’s a reason why most people on the fedi are white men in tech

        only the queer community seems to have managed to carve itself a place on the fedi, and even it has big issues of rampant racism

      • @P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.brOP
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        Exactly. Most Fediverse fans always go on a rant about “corporations”, “enshittification”, whatever, when they don’t understand that not everyone will take/have time to learn about these things. Not everything is simple as in just click a big “download” button or “create account”. It’s those new extra steps that confuse those people, some who are of old age, or never saw a desktop computer before. It needs actual designers. Same thing with other FOSS projects.

        • @saltesc@lemmy.world
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          No, no. It’s definitely about “getting fucked” as SnotFlickerman succinctly put it. It’s just users getting ravaged by corporations so hard they don’t notice care—or something.

    • @Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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      Tech enthusiasts vastly overestimate how much hassle people are willing to put up with in order to do something, and this is a classic example.

      • @BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world
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        Seriously the number of people on here complaining about Windows bloat. I’m not even 100% sure what the hell that’s supposed to mean. I’m a normie and my windows runs fine.

        Edit:spelling

  • m3t00🌎
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    11 month ago

    charge a sub for ‘special’ instances. take credit cards. extra emojis

      • @FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Probably mean the weird double standard where a big portion of the content on lemmy is bluesky screenshots and no one complains about them, but somehow whenever you mention bluesky as an alternative to twitter people will completely ignore the features that make it more popular than mastodon and demonise it to make it sound as bad as twitter.

    • @juliebean@lemm.ee
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      21 month ago

      is that a millionaire who licks boots, or one who licks the boots of millionaires? also, what?

  • @ooli@lemmy.world
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    Any social platform, from fb, to reddit and youtube worth only as much as the number of people using it. Less people = less creative mind = less potential friend = less incentive to come use the same platform = less public for creative mind. So social media can only work as a monopoly or quasi. Or it is of no one interest to come on it, if all your friend/favorite creator, are on the other platform.

    Ergo, you have to do some proselytism so everyone join the platform you’re using. That being said: did you create your account on bluesky?

    • @Fades@lemmy.world
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      For the most part yes, but not always and also once it gets too big you lose those same creative minds to the sea of trash and mediocrity

    • @orcrist@lemm.ee
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      Well that’s not true at all. I don’t think most of us are going on social media to communicate with billions of people. If we can communicate with tens of thousands of people, or perhaps less than that, but those are high quality communications, that’s good enough for many or most of us.

      Which is to say, quality of other users, quantity of users, and quality of service are all important when trying to evaluate the overall quality of any social media provider.

      Of course your goal could be different if all you want is exposure. If you want to advertise, then large numbers of users might be your priority. But most of us are not doing that.

      • @ooli@lemmy.world
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        11 month ago

        If none of your family /friend are on facebook, you wont use it. If you cant find like minded people on Lemmy, you wont use it.

        Less people mean on average you have less chance to have your friend/family there, or like minded people or ‘quality’ people. Just on average.

        We can argue that some platform get all the good people, but I think that is mostly a false belief

  • @Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    141 month ago

    I feel the same way about linux. Every post remotely related to tech brings on the linux bro trying to convert you to their religion of linux