• @2pt_perversion@lemmy.world
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    Why are people acting like this is too difficult? Biden doesn’t have to go through every file himself. Form a small committee of legal experts you respect and take a bite out of what you can.

  • @Illegalmexicant@lemmy.world
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    I feel like that if one pardon commits a crime, it will be spun like illegal immigrants where one person’s actions defines the group.

    • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      91 month ago

      How about instead of letting Republicans control the narrative we point out how immigrants have been treated unfairly by the system and tell everyone we think the pardon is a great idea. People are doing it for Hunter Biden why not immigrants?

      • @GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works
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        Are you talking about the student loans he wrote off for a small subset of people who needed it?

        I’m happy for those who got it, but that’s hardly enough progress on this issue for me to give our government praise for it. Nearly all of us in the working class were still better off four years ago than we are now. Biden jacked up interest rates to address “inflation,” which increased my mortgage by around $700 a month. That’s more than what I pay in student loans, and that’s just one example.

        Things seems to just get worse slower when dems are in office, not better. IAnd I’m entirely fed up with it.

        • @Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
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          71 month ago

          100%

          They’re controlled opposition; they exist to block any leftist, progressive candidates from reaching positions of actual influence. They have abandoned workers and aided in the gutting of the middle class for at least 10 years.

  • ThePowerOfGeek
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    871 month ago

    and pardon on a case-by-case basis the working-class Americans in the federal prison system whose lives have been ruined by unjustly aggressive prosecutions for nonviolent offenses

    It’s a noble idea in principle. But how the hell can a sizeable number of innocent or excessively punished people be pardoned on a case by case basis in the span of under 7 weeks?

    This is an extremely impractical idea to implement, and reeks of empty grandstanding in by Jeffries.

    • @affiliate@lemmy.world
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      he can gather a team of lawyers to go through the files and compile a list. lawyers have evolved past the need for sleep, so they have an extra 8 hours a day to go through files. should be doable in 7 weeks.

      • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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        231 month ago

        The letter noted that the US has disproportionately incarcerated people of color, low-income individuals, members of the LGBTQ+ community and those with disabilities, and that 90% of the federal prison population was convicted on non-violent offenses.

        What are you talking about? If the rich and the powerful get justice why not the rest of us too? Since when has justice been too broad?

        • @AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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          181 month ago

          That’s kind of exactly my point. 90% is still a lot of people and I doubt the database of federal inmates has an “unjustly prosecuted” filter. But there are some non-violent white collar criminals who absolutely belong in prison (including about half of Trump’s advisors) so there needs to be something to focus on like marijuana possession or whistleblowers or something else that can narrow the scope.

    • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      131 month ago

      It’s the bare minimum. We are supposed to have justice for all in this country. Not just justice for Hunter Biden.

      How about Biden starts now and focuses on getting as many done as possible. What’s this angle of pretending it’s too difficult?

        • @kreskin@lemmy.world
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          No matter what Biden does you’re going to complain it isn’t enough

          Good point… I assume Hunter gets to keep that 1.4 million of taxes he didnt pay and is now pardoned for, why not give him more of the treasuries money? Why not give all the rich people the money from the treasury?

          • @UsernameHere@lemmy.world
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            Nope, he already paid the owed taxes in December of 2020.

            Good to know you’re willing to make stuff up to support your bias.

            • @kreskin@lemmy.world
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              Well thanks for the info I guess. You’ll notice I said “I assume” rather than your claim that I was asserting it as fact. But point taken. In return I can suggest you can work on your tone when engaging strangers.

        • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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          How are you satisfied with Joe Biden pardoning Hunter Biden and calling it a day? The rich and the powerful get justice and that’s it? Why defend Biden on this one?

          The Democrats refuse to use power for the sake of norms until they personally can benefit from breaking the norm. This doesn’t help anyone other than Hunter Biden. They should challenge norms for the benefit of the American people. Biden has the pardon power and plenty of time left. He should use it! edit: typo

          • @pivot_root@lemmy.world
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            It’s hard to blame people for wanting to hold on to the hope that the Democratic party* isn’t also self-serving. They’re wrong, but their hearts are probably in the right place.

            Edit: In light of the downvotes, let me clarify: I don’t think either the Democrats or Republicans give a rat’s ass about their voters. I’m trying to be charitable towards people here.

            • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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              It’s been clear since Pelosi and other Democrats were caught insider trading that most contemporary politicians are self-serving. The distinction we should care about is that for Republicans the cruelty is the point. Where as democrats at least make an effort to make things better even if it’s incremental.

              Pardons would be an incremental change to a systemic problem that, while insufficient, should be well within the Democrats wheelhouse and not unwelcome.

              Democrats need to stop caring about taking the moral high road and start caring about using power to help people. They can’t be bothered to see the former through to the end so they might as well do the latter. The core message of Biden’s 2020 campaign was a battle for the soul of our nation. Thankfully souls aren’t real because Biden lost that battle hard. edit: typos

    • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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      Just pardon them all to bankrupt the prison system and realize that while you let a few awful people go free most of the people you pardoned and those around them will have markedly better lives.

      • @NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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        The wild thing is that at this point it’s hard to argue that special interest lobbies are holding him back. He’s got virtually nothing to lose and yet he does nothing aside from making the self-interested play.

  • @someguy3@lemmy.world
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    “During his final weeks in office, President Biden should exercise the high level of compassion he has consistently demonstrated throughout his life, including toward his son, and pardon on a case-by-case basis the working-class Americans in the federal prison system whose lives have been ruined by unjustly aggressive prosecutions for nonviolent offenses,” Jeffries said in a statement.

  • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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    91 month ago

    He should pardon every undocument immigrant in the US, just to stick it to Trump, any woman charged with any crime under retro-medieval aborton laws, and commute every death sentence under his jurisdiction. But he won’t.

  • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    221 month ago

    He did. By passing meaningful legislation for 4 years and forgiving student loans.

    Then we told him to go fuck himself and re-hired a felon rapist.

    He doesn’t owe us shit.

    • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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      291 month ago

      He doesn’t owe us shit.

      Like fuck he doesn’t. He’s the fucking president. If he had an ounce of decency, he’d keep fighting fascism 'til the last day of his presidency. That’s what having power in a republic means, the duty to use it for the common good.

        • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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          61 month ago

          Do you have suggestions? Or just complaints? Are you aware presidents can’t just do anything?

          Holy fucking shit man, the only thing I’m responding to is the idea that Biden doesn’t “owe us shit” because the US electorate was mean to him. Biden owes us the full execution of his duty to the best of his abilities from now until the day he leaves the presidency.

          Not to mention that the very topic of the post and article is literally a suggestion from a Congresscritter.

          • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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            21 month ago

            What are your suggestions? You’re complaining. What do you want him to do, within his power, in the remaining month?

      • @Maiq@lemy.lol
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        The Senator from MBNA only ever had one agenda. I’ll quote the man himself, “Nothing will fundamentally change”. Caught hotmic’d in a closed door large bribery donor fancy plate shindig 4.5 years ago. Wouldn’t be holding any breath waiting for anything from this guy.

    • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      211 month ago

      Despite these actions, the Last Prisoner Project (LPP) notes in a statement that Biden “has yet to release a single person still incarcerated for cannabis through commutation.” Although the pardons granted relief to thousands of people with a conviction on their records, the president’s clemency actions did not address the approximately 3,000 individuals serving time in federal prisons for cannabis related offenses.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherrington/2024/11/26/nonprofit-group-calls-on-biden-to-pardon-cannabis-prisoners/

      Ask more of your leaders. He in fact does owe us. We live in a democracy.

      Be dissatisfied with corruption and nepotism. Otherwise that is all we will get. And we’ll have no one to blame but ourselves.

  • @yesman@lemmy.world
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    71 month ago

    This would have been productive with a blue-ribbon commission and 2 years. But Biden should totally be able to hammer it out one rainy morning.

    • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      131 month ago

      The letter noted that the US has disproportionately incarcerated people of color, low-income individuals, members of the LGBTQ+ community and those with disabilities, and that 90% of the federal prison population was convicted on non-violent offenses.

      90% of them are non-violent offenders. I’m not convinced the other 10% would result in the country burning down. They weren’t born in prison, but the country still managed to arrest them when they did something wrong. How about we arrest them again if they break the law instead of self-immolating for no reason? Or just pardon the 90% with non-violent offenses.

  • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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    581 month ago

    The first people the fascists are going to go after will likely be minorities and immigrants in prison.

    If Joe Biden pardoning Hunter Biden doesn’t bother you then neither should this. This is what we should be calling for, because the justice system isn’t fair to anyone, not just Hunter Biden.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed
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    91 month ago

    I also would like one order of a “full unconditional pardon of any crime that I may or may not have committed, from [date of my birth] to [date of my death], and also pardon all my debts and taxes also effective from the same time period please.”