Summary
Briana Boston, 42, was charged with threatening a health insurance company after repeating words linked to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
During a recorded call with Blue Cross Blue Shield about a denied claim, Boston said, “Delay, deny, depose, you people are next,” echoing phrases engraved on bullet casings at Thompson’s murder scene.
Authorities allege she exploited the CEO’s homicide to make the threat.
Boston, a mother of three with no prior criminal record, was arrested and held on $100,000 bail amidst warnings of potential copycat incidents targeting healthcare executives.
A Health Insurance company denies your medical claims threatening your health and your life = good business
A frustrated house wife who can’t afford health care threatens a billion dollar corporation = jail
Pretty obvious indicator of where our collective priorities are, isn’t it?
Bullshit. Who has the power? Yes. But fuck no, that is not “collective priority”. Until people learn to with together, collective priority is utterly meaningless.
This is the same shit billionaires use to justify their existence.
After seeing how the healthcare companies are reacting to this, unfortunately I don’t think anything will change until there are more killings
I disagree. Most of us do our small part to support the idea that those who have more deserve more, and those who have less deserve less in our everyday social interactions.
Well, then I will point that your “collective priority” merely represents how you or I have been conditioned to behave, but as such, cannot hope to quantify what each of us believe, nor our personal assumptions on how we want the world to work.
We do not want this. A ridiculously small percentage of humanity occupies the uppermost echelons of capitalism. They want this.
The best take I’ve seen on this:
The judge set her bail at $100,000, citing “the status of our country at this point”.
So the judge is holding this lady personally responsible for the nation’s sentiment towards healthcare companies?
Activist fucking judge
Almost always Conservatives being snowflakes
Stop acknowledging facts or you’ll be next.
She’s next.
Once again, don’t fuck with rich people! They don’t like it when you point out their scam.
don’t [leave evidence when you] fuck with rich people
I’m still not convinced he actually did, that any of those things they found on him weren’t planted, or that he was even the shooter at all
So much of this just does not add up…I don’t know that it’s anything other than what they’ve presented but it’s got enough oddities to throw it all into question, and it has since the first face reveal of someone wearing completely different clothes and backpack from the shooter, and all the very convenient evidence that he supposedly was still carrying around with him and the handwritten “manifesto” that read like someone trying to sound smart rather than someone who’s actually well read and educated
Yeah it definitely doesn’t smell right. Actual assassin or not though, he’s become a symbol.
Absolutely
Funny how fast and hard the state reacts if someone has something against the rich.
And this is supposed to make her less likely to want to kill them? Lol
I’d never take that kind of action against another person for any reason. Now that I’ve got that out of the way, this alone makes me feel that way. I don’t think these rich people or their highly paid judges and politicians realize “setting an example” in the current climate isn’t going to have the effect they think it will.
I don’t think “setting an example” ever did anything. Not even once.
This behavior on the part of the authorities sure as fuck won’t make it less likely that SOMEBODY will want to exterminate the billionaire filth
This is kinda proving the lady’s point isn’t it?
exactly!
Suspected killer. Even the BBC is towing the line.
I’d argue that the word are unarguably the killer’s. After all, they were written on the bullet cases that were used to kill the guy.
Whether or not Luigi is the killer is still being decided by the courts. If they had said the words were Luigi’s, there would be an issue. But they didn’t say that; They said “CEO killer” instead, which simply attributes the words to whoever killed the dude.
Those are the killer’s words… whether Mangione is the killer is another story. not that I think this woman should be in jail either; it’s absolutely ridiculous that she is. The reporting is fairly objective though as far as I can tell.
That’s a great point.
Toeing the line? They’re going well beyond that. Have you read the BBC’s finger-wagging admonishment of the poors / puff piece for United Health?
Disgusting, I can’t stand humanizing serial killers. UK doesn’t even HAVE a for-profit healthcare system (yet), but they still stand in solidarity with the haves against the have-nots
They have monarch, tho.
Not by choice, we don’t.
If it was by choice, then they wouldn’t be a monarch. :D
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Even the BBC is
towingtoeing the line.Holy crap i didn’t even notice. I feel like swipe typing is getting worse or maybe I’m just getting worse at it then again e and w are right next to each other
It’s definitely getting worse. SwiftKey used to be great at
precociouspredictingword’swords.YepToo manyexaltedexamples here. I’m leaving them all in.
eggcorn
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‘Eggcorn’ is a linguistics term for a new word or phrase that is slightly different to an older one- substituting words that sound smilar- yet still makes sense and has a similar meaning to the older term, for example:
- eggcorn, (acorn)
- mute point (moot),
- free rein (reign - I think reign is older version?),
- towing the line (toe)
Sometimes the eggcorns make more sense to modern speakers than the older term and it may eventually usurp them entirely. I don’t think many peple know what a ‘moot’ is anymore. If ‘mute’ makes more sense to more people it’s likely to grow in popularity.
I don’t know why linguists chose ‘eggcorn’ as the eponym; I’m sure I’ve never actually heard anyone say “eggcorn” to mean “acorn” - apart from me since I learnt about this phenomenon.
Well they’ve been trying to privitize the NHC…
Hmm the company is violating her human rights and endangering her life, they are the ones who should be in front of the judge
And own state law, article 365.161(d)…
Who did she threaten? A spefic person? A group? What makes the judge think this was a credible threat?
Just another way to squash any kind of continuance of an idea, whoch is very dystopian.
They get to make up rules whenever rich people are worried.
I’ve been threatened multiple times in my life. They never explicitly tell me they’ll injure me, they use language like “or else”.
That’s a threat. We all know that’s a threat. Let’s not pretend otherwise. People making threats these days think they’re being clever by being indirect.
Trust me, you don’t want to be in a country where stuff like this is normalised, especially by right wingers
Because of the implication.
My first call center job, my first year, someone threatened to kill me. 23 years ago, I still remember it. I answered the call, didn’t even get the first word of my greeting out, and this woman was screaming, “don’t hang up on me, you better not hang up on me, the last three people hung up on me, if you hang up on me I will come through the phone and KILL YOU!”
I hung up on her.
In my case it was my ex housemates boyfriend, and then a rich customers kid onsite who threatened me (we were fixing another installers f up and we somehow got blamed)
Did she kill you?
It’s funny, because I didn’t consciously intend to hang up on her, it was very much a reflexive action. But moments later I realized I had missed the perfect opportunity to say “I’d like to see you try”
You’re missing my point I think. Not saying she didn’t make a threat. But WHO specifically did she threaten? Was it a specific person? Was it a group?
Group / company…
It doesn’t need to be a specific person.
Making threats just tells them what the plans are. Move in silence, and do what needs to be done. You wouldn’t tell (or imply to) a cop that you’re planning on robbing a store, because they would expect it and act accordingly.
STFU Fridays!
It’s better to learn anyways.
Let’s all learn about jury nullification!
https://beyondcourts.org/sites/default/files/2022-07/Jury-Nullification-Toolkit-English_0.pdf
CGPGrey: The Law You Won’t Be Told if you’re more of a watch-funny-YouTube guy than a read-50-page-PDF guy.
Are you talking about jury nullification in the context of a crime that has not yet been committed and that crime might be a violent crime? Sounds like you are violating the newest .world ToS update.
Have an upvote.
I’m just talking about jury nullification.
Haha, thought it was at least a little relevant.
That’s why I feel comfortable threatening corporations online.
I have zero plans of doing anything, I’m just here to cheer it on.
If anyone out there has true plans to do something, shut the fuck up. Tell no one. Be like Luigi.
Test your printed silencer before so you know what powder load will cycle properly
Have a secluded hide-out prepared with everything you need for a month.
Without knowing more, it is the “you people are next” that makes this a threat in particular. You should easily be able to say deny defend or depose or whatever, just don’t use threats
Hence why we have an actual standard for this…
A random housewife giving a vague threat at the end of an already heated call by referencing a recent event involving the company, really doesn’t come close to the definition.
this isn’t a first amendment issue.
It’s illegal to shout “BOMB!” in an airport even if there is no bomb, and you have no intention of setting one off. further, it’s also illegal to shout “FIRE!” in a crowded theater.
It’s also pretty much illegal everywhere to call in bomb threats or similar, even merely as a prank.
this isn’t a first amendment issue.
It very much is.
It’s also pretty much illegal everywhere to call in bomb threats or similar, even merely as a prank.
Hence why there is a legal distinction for true threats like that… which you chose to completely ignore for whatever reason (probably because it negates your entire comment).
It’s not any different than telling someone that you wish they’d die. That’s not a threat. No one in their right mind would think she, herself, was making a direct threat against anyone at the company based on the context of the conversation. Only dumbfuck keyboard warriors on the internet trying to look smart but too lazy to click any links because it might conflict with their idea of reality.
How to tell no one has ever threatened you.
Glad you live a safe law protected by laws.
I’ve worked contract security and have had people threaten me over being told they can’t park in a handicap space to pick up their spouse.
I’ve had those same people then try and follow me home, then tell the cops we happened to be going the same way. (Despite it being hours later.)
You cannot tell who will and who won’t.
A threat was communicated and a threat was meant to be communicated. That’s enough to satisfy the first amendment’s need for subjective “intention.”
Which is why this isn’t a first amendment issue. Boston meant what she said, and we know that; because she doubled down on it with the cops.
It isn’t the intention to carry out the threat, it’s the intention to make the threat.
How to tell no one has ever threatened you.
I’ve worked front line call center just like this situation. I’ve had a shit ton of threats. None of them were ever going to do shit, most of them were much worse than what she said.
If her statement is the bar, then at least 3/4 of calls into any customer service number would result in an arrest. If we’re going to apply the law equally, then we need to apply it equally and arrest 3/4 of the population.
In person threats are a completely different situation than an escalated customer service call.
This is a common misconception. It’s not illegal to say anything like “bomb” or “fire” in a public place, at all.
What you could get charged with in those situations is something like, “inciting a riot”, or “disorderly conduct”. These depend on how people around you react to your words or actions, but doesn’t depend on the actual words used.
So you’re saying it’s illegal? Yup. You are!
Also note, there’s the argument that the threat itself was disorderly etc, and the reason these laws stand is because; generally, people have a right to not be living under the fear such threats cause.
Trust me, if these kinds of statements were protected speech, we’d live in a much, much worse place.
But they’re not.
She intended to communicate a threat of violence. It doesn’t matter if she could carry it out, on reasonable person can know that- in the context of that phone call. Or even in the context of the conversation with the cops later.
Its not illegal, though. I can go out into public right now and say it with no repercussions. If it was illegal, how would anyone possibly inform other people of actual fires and bombs?
The thing that is illegal is causing a panic in a large group of people. Has nothing to do with the words used.
I just feel that the nuance is important. Any combination of words could get you in trouble if it happens to cause a riot.
I have to agree with you, mostly.
The system gets to make the rules and even if she didn’t say, “you people are next” I think they’d still be doing this. Corpos control our justice system and they will not tolerate us glorifying Luigi Mangione (please jurors look up "nullification”)
and then when the cops came, she admitted to it, and continued on saying stuff like “they’re evil” and “They deserve karma”
like. Okay. The insurance peeps are fucking evil. she’s not wrong.
but maybe don’t tell the cops that? maybe shut the fuck up and get a lawyer.
Every day is shut the fuck up Friday
That was my thought as well. If she left it at DDD, that’s just showing opposition. “You people are next” is a pretty clear threat.
Fuck the insurance companies, but be smart about how.
Sounded more like a prediction to me
Doesn’t sound like a threat. Sounds like a sincere warning.
Gotta tap down those unruly peons before the rest get uppity.
Does she have a GoFundMe? I’d like to buy her a green jacket
