• Th4tGuyII
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    Genuinely fuck Musk. Cries he’s being called a Nazi while doing everything in his power to act like one.

    Nobody does a Nazi salute by accident Elon… And especially not with a face looking like he just bust a nut while doing it.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      112 months ago

      “The real anti-semitism was when the allies attacked the camps on D-Day, the jews were just roasting s’mores we swear!” - The ADL

    • @FatCrab@lemmy.one
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      32 months ago

      The ADL has never not been a horrifically shitty organization and has probably done more damage to Jewish culture than any other group in the last 50 years. They’re effectively a bunch of quisling fucks.

  • esa
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    652 months ago

    Translating a comment by a Norwegian author:

    as someone who once put in a lot of effort to excuse the far right etc when they maybe cross the line a little bit but probably don’t really mean it so let’s all calm down a bit, I’ve learned one thing:

    the only reward you get for doing this is that they the next day bombastically step over that same line to show that they don’t feel bound by your wimpy sense of decency

    because the fight is against what they perceive as a wimpy, castrated centrist decency is one of the central driving forces in such groups

    More people who have tried to explain away the nazi salute could probably stand to learn the same lesson ASAP. The only thing they’re really communicating is that the rich & powerful can do what they want and the excusers will stay their loyal lapdogs.

  • @nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz
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    292 months ago

    The tweet for those curious

    Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,”

    • @exploitedamerican@lemm.ee
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      132 months ago

      They manufacture consent, couple that with the extreme oppression and destruction of the middle class since the nixon administration and neo liberal right wing policies that doubled down on these awful ideas while actively working to subvert and undermine any movement left on meaningful social issues. We didn’t let this happen so much as we were conditioned to allow it and be too exhausted just barely surviving that we would not have any energy to actively fight and thwart a blatant class war waged against the working class and poor right in front of our eyes,

    • @Crikeste@lemm.ee
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      62 months ago

      What are we supposed to do? Vote? Protest? I think you’ve seen how effective those are.

      So do you have any proposals? What exactly are we supposed to do?

      • @WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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        32 months ago

        Well, I was thinking of growing a group that focuses on helping each other reach self-sustainability, which would make controlling them extremely difficult, and would erode the ability of TPTB to exploit them. But my cognitive abilities declined very suddenly, and I struggle to keep a clean stack of clothes

  • Clay_pidgin
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    252 months ago

    I saw someone on Lemmy post that exact comment yesterday. Either the lemming copied it from elsewhere, or musk is in the building.

    Elon if you see this: you are a bad person and a bad father.

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    I had a discussion on an industry Slack yesterday with a guy because I called Elon a nazi.

    The guy brought immediately the discussion in DM and there I noticed he was wearing a kippa in his profile picture so I asked where was he from…

    And he snapped and started to call me a jew hater and telling me that I wanted to bring him to the gas chambers and all the usual bullying.

    Turns out the term they are using to make this connection is called Holocaust Trivialization.

    I screenshot the whole discussion, blocked him everywhere I could find him (as I am doing with all Israeli people and businesses to be fair) and kept going with my life while he was still spewing insults at me.

    This guy is the frontman of the most important conference in my industry.

    Keep ready.

    • @iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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      92 months ago

      wow and is he an Elon fan too? or is he just one of those people who call everyone anti-semitist even those speaking against literal Nazi sympathisers lol

      • @biofaust@lemmy.world
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        12 months ago

        He put his hands forward and said, “I don’t particularly like Musk”, but really, I see no difference between the two categories you described. The Israeli narrative of not allowing to “trivialize the Holocaust” when I have just been calling the guy a nazi because he speaks, acts and supports like one is exactly the kind of wildcard that a Musk/Trump sympathizer dreams of.

        As long as you don’t touch the Jews (or better israel and zionists), you are in the clear.

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          “dont particularly like Elon” is pretty soft compared to the reaction you got. I don’t know what he expects a non-trivial Nazi sympathiser to be like in 2025, someone getting a rifle and going around killing Jews randomly while singing “Die Fahne hoch”?

          • @biofaust@lemmy.world
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            12 months ago

            My problem is that I called an American-naturalized South African a nazi because of his political support, rhetoric and behavior and he answers “don’t trivialize the Holocaust”: how did he get there?

            And what happens now that nazis are friends of Netanyahu? All clear?

      • @dx1@lemmy.world
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        Zionism is the fascist movement within Judaism (although many Jews reject it being associated with Judaism at all). Being against Zionism is no more anti-Jewish than being against white supremacism is being “anti-white”. That’s how that actually works. Jumping to accuse anyone criticizing Zionism as being “antisemitic” is just a lazy, intellectually dishonest smear that everyone sees through, and you should stop polluting conversations with it.

      • @boonhet@lemm.ee
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        92 months ago

        Autoblocking israelis and autoblocking jews aren’t necessarily the same thing. Zionists are essentially nazis. Hell, zionists collaborated with the actual 20th century nazis too. Lots of jews died because of it.

    • NutWrench
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      112 months ago

      Corporate news media is terrified of being sued for libel by Musk, even though it was obviously a Nazi salute. So they use words like “seemed” and “appeared” to avoid saying the obvious.

      But the problem is, if you want to be taken seriously as a “news” organization, then you have to speak truth to power and that’s going to make you a lot of enemies. Companys have legal departments to minimize their risk, but in the case of journalism, that department exists to get you OUT of trouble not to keep you from ever getting into it.