In other words, you might not want to trust them because they killed off a Pixel Pass that 25 people signed up for, a Google Podcasts app that was basically a browser in an app shell that was given a proper replacement, a niche business presentation screen in Jamboard, and Stadia…freaking Stadia. They gave you all of your money back and let you keep the controller, guys.
It’s not a good look when right off the bat it dismisses what is valid concerns by treating the opposition like they’re just whining.
For real I was going to say this reads like a Google marketing AstroTurf. Just watched the linked MKBHD video and it’s not unfair; definitely not “weird”
Stadia was amazing. I blame everyone but Google on its demise. You could literally play CP 2077 without a console but people still stuck to PlayStation and Xbox. Google handled the shutdown so well. I played around $500 worth of games got the money back. Kept two controllers and bought a steam deck with that money
Cloud gaming is bad for history. If the game was only released for the cloud, and that game is shut down, or the cloud service shuts down, that game is gone forever.
They want to push it, because it gives them control over every aspect of the experience. They know everything you do in the game, you can’t mod it, you can’t pirate, you can’t play offline, you can’t do anything unless they say you can.
Without a doubt it was amazing and me and my family were extremely sad, but in the end what is there to be mad about with stadia… I was part of something different, I was also a founder and played all the time. I think I owned all the games before I didn’t 😂
In 2015 Google said “With Google Photos, you can now back up and store unlimited high-quality photos and videos for free”. This is no longer true, even considering their vague corporate speak promise of “unlimited high-quality”. By Google’s own wording within the Google Photos app the options are “Original quality” or “Storage Saver”. There is no high-quality unlimited option.
But it’s not even about explicit promises. It’s about the constant erosion of user trust. Having to read into the details and interpret marketing vs legal speak does nothing to alleviate that Google has done this to themselves.
This lacks context and they did keep this promise after a fashion. They never promised it would be consistent across any phones but the pixel line at the time, and additionally never said it would continue on new pixel phones.
There’s a lot of asterisks attached to that sentence. My point being that no one wants to think about all the ways Google is going to wiggle out of its commitments each time they make a new one. It erodes trust and I’m glad that they are getting more and more negative press about it. They need to be held accountable. Their strategy of making a product at a loss while they drive out all competition until they realise it’s not a billion dollar product and promptly shut it down while shafting everyone who grew to rely on it needs to stop.
I dunno, I kinda don’t disagree with them. Companies discontinue products all the time, and Google just seems to get a lot more flak for it.
Apples discontinued the iPod, and a bunch of different hardware devices. I’m about as worried that they’ll discontinue the iPhone as I am that Google will discontinue the pixel line.
Google discontinue a lot more than almost anyone else though. It’s a meme at this point how often they kill things off. Does a website like this exist for any other company?
Well, no, but that doesn’t mean that it’s an accurate assessment.
Additionally, have you ever actually read what they put on that site? If Google changes the name of a product, then they “killed” the original. If they merge a product into another, then they killed one or both.
Did you know they killed Google street view? It’s now just a tab in maps. They also at one point had “leaving reviews of businesses” as a separate system, which they also killed by making it a core feature.
But yes, Google does kill more products than some other companies. They also make more products available than others. Apple has never developed a car, a series of bipedal robots, or blood sugar monitoring contact lenses.
So yeah, it’s a meme. I don’t generally take memes as honest statements of fact.
Google probably kills products that don’t hit their internal success metrics, and this allows them to go on and try new things instead of maintaining products that didn’t work out.
Have they made some questionable decisions? Sure.
However, for the Pixel to stop receiving these updates, that would essentially mean that Google is discontinuing Android development and there are much bigger concerns (ie Apple monopoly on smartphone OS).
Google will absolutely be stopping Android development in the relatively near future. They’re already making almost all the new features pixel exclusive, never making their way to AOSP.
Ok bud. They’re making pixel exclusive features, because it depends on their tensor chip. The whole point of the Pixel exclusive features is to draw people to the Pixels over other android devices.
Do you have any actual sources for this, or is this just an assumption because “Google bad and kills all their products!”
Will Google also stop developing their other products that actually bring a profit, like their search engine and Google ads?
Their pixel exclusive features absolutely do not require the tensor SOC. They would work on any flagship chip.
The source is Google want to be Apple with respect to phones. They crave that locked down closed source OS where everyone is beholden to them. They don’t like that their product is used against them by their competitors who often do it better. They’ll drop android development in the relatively near future 100%, when they have their closed source replacement.
No? Not sure how you got that from what I posted lol.
Google aren’t going to kill android. I never said that. What they’re going to do is make a new OS for their mobiles and devices and stop android development. As I pointed out, they’ve already begun this with fuchsia and by not adding 90% of their new OS features to AOSP. They don’t want their OS to be open source anymore, that was just how they would capture the market they wanted.
The last few Android OS versions outside of pixels have just been essentially UI and security updates. Virtually no new features. Everything is pixel exclusive. This is their way of weaning off Android into their new closed source OS. They’ve already updated all of their Google home hubs to fuchsia.
More that the concern feels hyperbolic. You should feel as much concern of Google canceling a flagship product as you do about apple doing so. I don’t see iPhones, pixels, or say, Kindles going anywhere soon.
It just doesn’t feel like a reasonable concern, proportional to how much attention it gets.
I think more Pixel’s a true flagship product. Big Tech corps are always launching likely contenders, then they evaluate them over time and if the benefits don’t realize or they find a better product it gets discontinued.
But some products are proven. The only way Alphabet and Apple would discontinue their flagship phones is if there’s some kind of mass turn away from mobile phones. Same as how Alphabet is not going to exit the search engine field.
Because the opposition frames the situation as Google never keeping any promise ever, in addition to refusing to acknowledge Google’s positive precedent with Android updates.
If you view the Android update situation in isolation, you’ll see that in the 10+ years Google has sold Pixel and Nexus phones, they have kept each one of their Android update promises.
It’s not a good look when right off the bat it dismisses what is valid concerns by treating the opposition like they’re just whining.
For real I was going to say this reads like a Google marketing AstroTurf. Just watched the linked MKBHD video and it’s not unfair; definitely not “weird”
Stadia was amazing. I blame everyone but Google on its demise. You could literally play CP 2077 without a console but people still stuck to PlayStation and Xbox. Google handled the shutdown so well. I played around $500 worth of games got the money back. Kept two controllers and bought a steam deck with that money
Cloud gaming is bad for history. If the game was only released for the cloud, and that game is shut down, or the cloud service shuts down, that game is gone forever.
They want to push it, because it gives them control over every aspect of the experience. They know everything you do in the game, you can’t mod it, you can’t pirate, you can’t play offline, you can’t do anything unless they say you can.
Without a doubt it was amazing and me and my family were extremely sad, but in the end what is there to be mad about with stadia… I was part of something different, I was also a founder and played all the time. I think I owned all the games before I didn’t 😂
I just got a nice discount on my Pixel 8 preorder with my Stadia refund.
The thing is, google guarantees 7 years of support, they can’t cancel that. The services they closed had no promise on the longevity
In 2015 Google said “With Google Photos, you can now back up and store unlimited high-quality photos and videos for free”. This is no longer true, even considering their vague corporate speak promise of “unlimited high-quality”. By Google’s own wording within the Google Photos app the options are “Original quality” or “Storage Saver”. There is no high-quality unlimited option.
But it’s not even about explicit promises. It’s about the constant erosion of user trust. Having to read into the details and interpret marketing vs legal speak does nothing to alleviate that Google has done this to themselves.
This lacks context and they did keep this promise after a fashion. They never promised it would be consistent across any phones but the pixel line at the time, and additionally never said it would continue on new pixel phones.
There’s a lot of asterisks attached to that sentence. My point being that no one wants to think about all the ways Google is going to wiggle out of its commitments each time they make a new one. It erodes trust and I’m glad that they are getting more and more negative press about it. They need to be held accountable. Their strategy of making a product at a loss while they drive out all competition until they realise it’s not a billion dollar product and promptly shut it down while shafting everyone who grew to rely on it needs to stop.
I dunno, I kinda don’t disagree with them. Companies discontinue products all the time, and Google just seems to get a lot more flak for it.
Apples discontinued the iPod, and a bunch of different hardware devices. I’m about as worried that they’ll discontinue the iPhone as I am that Google will discontinue the pixel line.
Google discontinue a lot more than almost anyone else though. It’s a meme at this point how often they kill things off. Does a website like this exist for any other company?
https://killedbygoogle.com/
Well, no, but that doesn’t mean that it’s an accurate assessment.
Additionally, have you ever actually read what they put on that site? If Google changes the name of a product, then they “killed” the original. If they merge a product into another, then they killed one or both.
Did you know they killed Google street view? It’s now just a tab in maps. They also at one point had “leaving reviews of businesses” as a separate system, which they also killed by making it a core feature.
But yes, Google does kill more products than some other companies. They also make more products available than others. Apple has never developed a car, a series of bipedal robots, or blood sugar monitoring contact lenses.
So yeah, it’s a meme. I don’t generally take memes as honest statements of fact.
Google probably kills products that don’t hit their internal success metrics, and this allows them to go on and try new things instead of maintaining products that didn’t work out.
Have they made some questionable decisions? Sure.
However, for the Pixel to stop receiving these updates, that would essentially mean that Google is discontinuing Android development and there are much bigger concerns (ie Apple monopoly on smartphone OS).
Google will absolutely be stopping Android development in the relatively near future. They’re already making almost all the new features pixel exclusive, never making their way to AOSP.
Ok bud. They’re making pixel exclusive features, because it depends on their tensor chip. The whole point of the Pixel exclusive features is to draw people to the Pixels over other android devices.
Do you have any actual sources for this, or is this just an assumption because “Google bad and kills all their products!”
Will Google also stop developing their other products that actually bring a profit, like their search engine and Google ads?
Their pixel exclusive features absolutely do not require the tensor SOC. They would work on any flagship chip.
The source is Google want to be Apple with respect to phones. They crave that locked down closed source OS where everyone is beholden to them. They don’t like that their product is used against them by their competitors who often do it better. They’ll drop android development in the relatively near future 100%, when they have their closed source replacement.
Ah ok, so this is just “Google bad and kills everything” got it 👍. Whatever you need to tell yourself to help you sleep at night I guess.
No? Not sure how you got that from what I posted lol.
Google aren’t going to kill android. I never said that. What they’re going to do is make a new OS for their mobiles and devices and stop android development. As I pointed out, they’ve already begun this with fuchsia and by not adding 90% of their new OS features to AOSP. They don’t want their OS to be open source anymore, that was just how they would capture the market they wanted.
The last few Android OS versions outside of pixels have just been essentially UI and security updates. Virtually no new features. Everything is pixel exclusive. This is their way of weaning off Android into their new closed source OS. They’ve already updated all of their Google home hubs to fuchsia.
I’m not sure I get your point, people should not doubt Google’s promise not because they don’t discontinue product but because everyone does?
More that the concern feels hyperbolic. You should feel as much concern of Google canceling a flagship product as you do about apple doing so. I don’t see iPhones, pixels, or say, Kindles going anywhere soon.
It just doesn’t feel like a reasonable concern, proportional to how much attention it gets.
I doubt people takes apple claim for granted either, they do have a class action lawsuit due to them volontarily throttling their phones.
I think more Pixel’s a true flagship product. Big Tech corps are always launching likely contenders, then they evaluate them over time and if the benefits don’t realize or they find a better product it gets discontinued.
But some products are proven. The only way Alphabet and Apple would discontinue their flagship phones is if there’s some kind of mass turn away from mobile phones. Same as how Alphabet is not going to exit the search engine field.
Because the opposition frames the situation as Google never keeping any promise ever, in addition to refusing to acknowledge Google’s positive precedent with Android updates.
If you view the Android update situation in isolation, you’ll see that in the 10+ years Google has sold Pixel and Nexus phones, they have kept each one of their Android update promises.