• Monkey With A Shell
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    2911 month ago

    Absolutely fucking not.

    Though it does sound like a good kicker for the after market systems to make a comeback.

    • fmstrat
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      51 month ago

      Custom flashes are probably more likely given the system integration of the head unit. UBlock for your car. How crazy is that?

  • @Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz
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    2001 month ago

    Jeep is a Stellantis product. Literally the worst quality auto manufacturer in North America. They are circling the drain and jacking up the prices on their vehicles and making Pikachu faces when they don’t sell. Their only customers are people who don’t know how to research their purchases, and putting advertisement hell into their cars is another example of that. I suspect they will not be in business a decade from now.

      • What’s confusing is that some great auto brands from Europe are under Stellantis (Peugeot and Citroen at least)

        And they’re actually not doing a shitty job in designing or selling their vehicles. It’s mainly the Chrysler brands or basically the US brands under Stellantis. I seriously hope the shit happening in Chrysler doesn’t come trickling down to the other brands

            • @Vinstaal0@lemmy.world
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              51 month ago

              That depends on the business culture and how good their advisors are. And also the size if the business matter.

              But yeah generally angelosaxton companies who have a mangement structure that’s way more in depth than it needs to be fuck these things over

        • @moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          61 month ago

          Peugeot and Citroën have their own issues in Europe (and technically in America) with the recall of car due to defective airbags.

        • @owenfromcanada@lemmy.world
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          91 month ago

          Out of the American big three, I have the most confidence in Ford. I’ve worked with engineers at all three, and the ones at Ford are the ones that I felt were most compitent.

          That being said, my next car will probably be a Toyota or a Subaru. Both way better than the American OEMs.

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      41 month ago

      I had two Jeeps, first was originally my dad’s. It was an old shitbox. The other one was a somewhat old shitbox. 1998 & 2010. We dumped more time and money into them than I’d care to admit.

    • Rolivers
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      Officer: Why were you speeding?

      Me: Wanted to avoid ads.

        • @InputZero@lemmy.world
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          191 month ago

          Jeep isn’t a true company anymore it’s just another brand under Stellantis. So FUCK stellantis and every other brand under them.

    • Gormadt
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      Officer, “Why’d you run that red light?”

      Me, “If I hear the Meow Mix jingle one more time I’m gonna snap!”

      Jeep, having heard you mention a product, dutifully plays the relevant ad.

  • Paulo Laureano
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    This is all I need to never even look at a Jeep… how pathetic can these idiots get?

    • @Psythik@lemmy.world
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      Furthermore: Slashdot still exists? And it still has an active community in the comments!?

      Lemmy alone hasn’t been enough to replace reddit for me; I should see if I still remember my old password…

  • @madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    1021 month ago

    This is why you need government. This is why you need regulations.

    Corporations are evil pieces of shit that would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

    They’d grind you and your entire family into a powder if it made them a few bucks.

    Fuck Jeep and their shitty tin cars.

    • @BambiDiego@lemmy.world
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      351 month ago

      This is why we need government that isn’t in the pocket of corporations.

      We need something like lawmakers having to disclose their tax information annually. If you want to be in office and make millions you should be willing to put your morals on the review table.

    • @TheFriar@lemm.ee
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      41 month ago

      they would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

      No, they would require you purchase these because their business can’t sell their products without them, but they’d make you pay a subscription for them to keep working, and when you stop paying the subscription, the car stops turning on until you pay your monthly airbag and seatbelt fee.

        • @belit_deg@lemmy.world
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          151 month ago

          I’m lost for words.

          …what if the whole family is watching? Does everyone have to raise their hands and yell “McDonalds”? Including the kids?

          This might just as well be used in “smart” fridges. “Do this corporate dance to get 20% off your next Corn Flakes”

            • @Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org
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              41 month ago

              I haven’t seen an ad in like 15 years or so (at home) and i already find them incredibly dystopian and weird. I don’t really understand how people put up with that right now, but it kind of tells me that they would actually do the laola wave and yell pepsi at their screen. I found my old VHS collection the other day and watched karate kid that i recorded as a child. I think it had 2 ad breaks who were really short, and back then we thought that it’s getting a bit much with the ads.

              • @fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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                21 month ago

                You raise a good point.

                I’m much the same in that I just refuse to watch anything with ads. They really are dystopian and weird.

                I also get that same feeling when I see someone just grinding through youtube ads, but people that do that just don’t seem to have any awareness of the interaction - it’s just part of the show.

                The weirdest of all is when people (usually brave browser enthusiasts?) try to claim that “some” ads are actually a good thing because it makes them aware of some product they actually desire which they wouldn’t have been aware of otherwise. I’ll take blissful ignorance thanks.

                So yes, I can imagine people doing this stuff without really thinking about it.

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      Wasnt there also something about showing ads while your show is paused now too?

      I’m ready to go back to kodi.

  • Jay
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    Stellantis, the parent company of Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, and Ram,

    Not just a Jeep thing. at least not for long.

    • @naught101@lemmy.world
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      51 month ago

      I wonder how hard it would be to make an open source car brain that can be a drop-in replacement for the commercial ones?

      • @M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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        91 month ago

        Hard, even stuff from 10 years ago have proaitary hardware across multiple “brains”.

          • @M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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            31 month ago

            I think anything 2008 and before is kinda a sweet spot for car driving quality. After the subprime crisis its like all the car makers went to shit.

  • @harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    731 month ago

    I was looking for a car a few months ago and was looking at newer models, used, but mostly less than a decade old. Then I started reading about all the tracking and such.

    I gave in to my inner teenager and bought a 2001 Porsche 911.

    The entertainment center can connect via Bluetooth but there’s no Android Auto, no navigation. It has Sirius XM but I never had a subscription to it and never will.

    I might add a backup camera but that’s it. My phone is more than enough tracking, even with as much of it shut off as possible.

    • SGG
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      191 month ago

      This is the way.

      Add in a magnetic charger phone mount and you’re golden in my opinion.

      • @harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        21 month ago

        A previous owner mounted one where the cigarette lighter was. I’m going to replace it soon since it doesn’t really fit - I can’t charge my phone in the holder.

        Maybe I’ll finally learn FreeCAD and print my own.

        • @Nerdulous@lemm.ee
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          21 month ago

          If you do want to learn a guy on YouTube by the name of mangojelly has been extremely inciteful for me

      • @harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        21 month ago

        Thanks! The next car on the list was a 2004 Honda Civic Si hatchback manual.

        I honestly would have been happy with either car. Having so much fun with the Porsche though.

  • rem26_art
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    The ad they show is an ad for their own extended warranty package and it says that “Odometer must be less than 36000 miles to purchase” Anyone wanna take bets for whether or not that will actually shut up once you go over 36k miles? (I’m betting no)

    We’re really deep into nightmare territory with the kind of stuff companies feel its ok to do to customers…

  • @SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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    671 month ago

    I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?

    • @MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world
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      381 month ago

      Japanese manufacturers are not perfect but seem to be the least interested in doing this kind of anti-consumer nonsense, at least for now. I have been happy with every Mazda I’ve owned in the last decade (3 in total) for what it’s worth.

      • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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        81 month ago

        Yup, Toyota has been solid for me. Though admittedly, they’re also one of the worst in regards to data privacy; You should assume that every single thing you do in a Toyota is being recorded and sent back to a Toyota server for ad/tracking purposes.

          • @dan@upvote.au
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            31 month ago

            Most cars have a SIM card with a very basic data/phone service. In many jurisdictions, it’s a legal requirement for cars to have a button to call emergency services, so they need phone connectivity for that. It’s also used for software updates, map updates, and of course, data collection.

            • @naught101@lemmy.world
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              31 month ago

              Holy crap I feel old now. Since when? I’m still driving a car without a touch screen, and that’s never going to change.

              • @dan@upvote.au
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                21 month ago

                I’m not sure how long.

                My older car (2012 Mazda 3) didn’t have a touch screen. I replaced the radio with a touch screen Pioneer one that supports Android Auto. I’d definitely recommend doing that! It’s nice having Google Maps on an older car. The third-party radios tend to be better than the OEM ones (they have to be, otherwise nobody would buy them) and I don’t think Pioneer does data collection of any sort.

      • @dan@upvote.au
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        31 month ago

        I just wish Mazda had a good EV. Their EVs just aren’t that good at the moment. I leased a BMW iX a few months ago, but my old car (which I still have) is a 2012 Mazda 3. Love the EV experience and I don’t think I’ll buy a gas powered car ever again.

        • @MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world
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          11 month ago

          Any pure EV from Mazda is actually a rebadged Chinese car but I forget which brand. It’s basically the only way Mazda could sell EVs in China and that’s what they offer to the European market as well. In North America, I know we only have the PHEV variants but no EV only.

    • @4grams@lemmy.world
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      301 month ago

      I’m on year 9 of my 10 year car plan. Current vehicle is supposed to become the kidmobile and I planned on a new one.

      I won’t buy a new car though. If I do replace mine, it will be a used, unconnected car. I am so tired of iPads on wheels.

      • @thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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        41 month ago

        my 2008 BMW is the last without a computer screen and none of that stupid knob and I had to seek it out but it was absolutely worth it. Bonus that I can actually work on the car my self!

        • DefederateLemmyMl
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          51 month ago

          I think cars peaked ca. 2010. Anything added after that are annoyances or things being taken away.

          If I could get a brand new facelift E90, that would probably be my next car.

      • @DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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        61 month ago

        Toyota Sales here Boy do I have some BMW Heated seat subscription crap to sell you

        (Its not quite as bad as BMW. But one thing that really irks customers is the remote starter is restricted to a subscription service. unless you’re one of the lucky ones who got a vehicle that installed the wrong part/fuses. in which case you can still remote start your car with the fob. its still very finnicky)

        • @Podunk@lemmy.world
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          11 month ago

          Yeah that remote start subscription really pissed me off. If i could confirm a way to give them even less data i would.

      • nocturne
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        21 month ago

        I am still awaiting my first map update to my nav system that has free lifetime map updates, my truck will be 10 this year.

    • @Absaroka@lemmy.world
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      31 month ago

      Mercedes also includes a number of items as a subscription in some countries. Some stuff is app related. Others are things like getting full use of your rear-steering wheels and unlocking extra horsepower.

    • @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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      21 month ago

      Something to consider…

      Elon may be going down a conservative rabbit hole these days, but this is the sort of thing Tesla would never ever ever do. And things like using the telematic system to sell your location and speed to insurance companies. Never happened on a Tesla. You may not like the guy, but the cars are fucking solid.

        • @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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          That practice was halted and now the vehicle video is under MUCH stricter control with an option to not share any of it at all.
          Given the choice, I’d rather have some Tesla employee joking about what I park next to than Tesla Inc selling my driving data to insurance companies like most other automakers do…

      • @moakley@lemmy.world
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        Oh, he’s just going down a rabbit hole! He’s going on a cute little adventure where he does a fucking Nazi salute in front of the whole country, then proceeds to recklessly dismantle huge parts of the US government, but it’s all just part of his magical little journey! Teehee!

      • nocturne
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        41 month ago

        Doesn’t Tesla lock larger battery capacity begging a paywall?

        • @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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          That was from years ago.

          Tesla used to sell cars rated by pack capacity. For example the ‘P85D’ was the performance model, 85 kWh pack, dual motor.
          There was also a 40 kWh (cheaper) and 60 kWh version.
          After a while they stopped building 40 kWh packs and just software-locked the 60 kWh pack to only have 40 kWh of usable capacity. I think for a while they offered an upgrade where you could pay to unlock the extra capacity.

          I don’t think they’ve done that in some time. I know when I bought my car (model y long range) they didn’t even advertise the pack capacity nor was any upgrade offered. The only paywall thing I’ve seen with Tesla is FSD and they’re pretty transparent about that. I don’t think they’re awful for paywalling it, because if they build the car without the FSD hardware it won’t have other safety systems like lane departure notification.

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          I’ve done it. I think it might have opened the charge port or something. What do you think happens?

    • @GalacticTaterTot@lemmy.world
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      This only applies to GM EVs. Friend has a 2025 ICE Chevy which has both AA and CarPlay. Still dumb that the EVs don’t have it though.