• Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Er, your instructions don’t kill all the telemetry that makes Win11 so privacy invasive.

    Unfortunately, your comments about security are spot-on — there have been a number of improvements in the latest Win11 releases that were never added to Win10.

    So while Win10 can be tweaked to be a relatively private OS, you need to update to the latest Win11 for security, or switch to a non-Microsoft OS.

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      9 months ago

      Mind to tell me what is missing then? NextDNS or Portmaster could be used, but they add more complexity. And as said, Windows should not be considered a safe OS so hardening it is kinda useless

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        9 months ago

        That’s the point. Windows 11 cannot be made to be a private OS. So you have to adjust your privacy model instead if you want to use it.

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        Every OS nowadays need a good DNS server and better DNScrypt above. An app to control the traffic, like Portmaster or Pi-Hole is also recommended, irrelevant in which OS. Most activity of everyone is online and there is important to protect the privacy, because there is the biggest privacy hole, not in the OS but PEBCAC

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          3 months ago

          Said complexity. This guide is intended for people who may dare a one-time setup but are otherwise not even upgrading! Dont expect much

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            Upgrading is always needed in every OS, because with the time are appearing new exploids and other malware which need corresponding paches in the OS, if not these security holes becomes bigger and bigger. There are also new web system which need an update of the OS to not loose compatibilities. These updates anyway are done mostly automaticly- In Windows with an advice that an update is in the queue and it will be installed in the next reboot. Luckyly in last Windows a thing of 3-5 minutes, often less.

            Updates are only irrelevant, if you use the OS exclusively local, eg. an old Windows XP in LAN for the intern use in a company with their own soft, an Vintage fan to play some old games in an old PC without internet access, or an automatism in a factory, which also don’t need more than a very basic OS, without any extra features than for what it is made for.

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          9 months ago

          Every work from home person and every corporate end point will be upgrading; simply due to legal liability for the corporations. That alone is hundreds of millions of pcs and laptops getting thrown out (because anyone in IT knows no corpo is going to pay the extra hours to recycle properly).

          Average users with no liability? Plenty will stay on win 10 until their use case no longer works, i.e. when steam dropped win vista compatibility, but plenty will be scared enough to upgrade.

          The weird part will be seeing who sidegrades to a tablet in the corporate environment. Many android tablets can do everything needed for office work, and don’t have the same security cross section. Most app front ends are electron anyway these days so its not like x86 is needed.

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      9 months ago

      I mean, this is about privacy, is it not? It’s pretty well-known by now that Windows mines your data.

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        9 months ago

        It is clearly mentioned that

        1. A huge amount of people use Windows 10 or older. Being a privacy elietist does not change that
        2. This is for people needing windows software
        3. The result is fine but still not private, simply a more reasonable OS
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    How do you want to read this Brick above without bleeding eyes?

    Andi Summary:

    How to Upgrade to Windows 11 While Maintaining Privacy and Control

    Before You Start

    1. Back up all important files to an external drive or cloud storage
    2. Verify system compatibility using Microsoft’s PC Health Check app
    3. Disable third-party antivirus software temporarily to prevent installation conflicts

    Most Efficient Method

    1. Download the Windows 11 ISO file directly from Microsoft’s website
    2. Mount the ISO by right-clicking and selecting “Mount”
    3. Run setup.exe as administrator from the mounted drive
    4. During installation, select “Keep personal files and apps” for fastest transition

    Privacy-Focused Settings

    1. During initial setup, decline optional data collection and analytics
    2. Skip the “complete installation” prompts for Edge browser and OneDrive backup
    3. Go to Settings > Privacy & Security after installation to disable unwanted tracking features

    Maintain Control

    1. Move the Start menu back to the left: Settings > Personalization > Taskbar > Taskbar behaviors
    2. Restore classic context menus and file explorer views for better efficiency
    3. Set up default apps through Settings > Apps > Default apps to avoid Microsoft’s preferred applications

    Recovery Options

    • Within 10 days of upgrading, you can roll back to Windows 10 through Settings > System > Recovery
    • Keep your Windows 10 backup for 30 days until you’re comfortable with Windows 11

    Sources:

    • PCWorld - How to upgrade to Windows 11: Every option explained
    • Prajwal Desai - Best Guide to Upgrade to Windows 11
    • PCWorld - How to update from Windows 10 to Windows 11

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    I’ll add also WindHawk, which is imperative in W11

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      Meh. Pretty useless IMHO. There are plenty of tricks to apply after this basic stuff and even then, they will try to insert new telemetry on every small update. It’s now worth the fight. Try to switch to Linux mint and have a dual boot for relevant software like Adobe.

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        Yes, dual boot is an option, but for certain things user need to use Windows. But you can make Windows a valid, fast and private OS, not so easy but possible. Telemetries re a minor problem and easy to avoid not needed. My W11 instalation has less than 1 GB and there is nothing working in the background which I don’t want. Certainly I don’t use any of the default Windows apps, nor the infame powersHell. Only the Defender and security updates.