Full quote of what he said was
“We are all Canadians, but we all have different identities and distinctions, and one of the great strengths of this country is recognizing that people can be who they are, they can love who they love, they can live where they are, and it’s fundamentally important that the federal government is the defender of those rights, defender of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and access to health care in Canada is a fundamental right for all Canadians without exception.”
Was asked in the context of Alberta’s anti-trans bills/legislation
Decent way to convey the important bits without using trigger words that could melt any insecure snowflakes.
I truely hope that remains our country’s policy. What a great way to say it as well. We’re all human and neighbors, living on this tiny (in a galactic sense) rock so let’s make our corner of it accepting to those that want the same.
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Are you sure? The previous gov restricted arms sales and Carney acknowledged that policy and seems in line with it.
For context, the other viable PM candidate thinks that Israel is the most scientifically democratically and politically advanced country in the the world and he’s professed unwavering support for it.
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Strawman. He didn’t call you a bot, he called you a boot licker.
Were the US Republicans deluded and out of touch too? In fact, who was not deluded or out of touch?
Lot of fake pro palestinian people on lemmy. Complains about israel genocide but can call oit politicians for their silence or complicity
How come they seem to mainly point out issues with the left (or center-left) and also seem to not support Ukraine …
Fuck off back to .ml with your divisive bullshit, please and thank you.
This is the same energy that got Cheeto Benito elected over the border. Thanks to bullshit like yours, dipshits somehow came to the conclusion that Harris would be worse for Palestine than Trump, and look where that got them.
Carney might not be taking a firm stance against Israel, but the other viable candidate straight up licks their boots and will be worse for Canada in every other way.
So, your answer to preventing the rise of fascism in Canada is to do exactly what the Democrats did in the US. How did that work out for them? If you actually want to see the Conservatives lose, you should demand the Liberals actually do better instead of compromising on something as fundamental as whether or not to support a Holocaust. That’s what you are doing right now, calling people out for saying “I will not vote for either of the Holocaust parties.” You may personally be willing to sacrifice a few hundred thousand brown people on the other side of the planet for the sake of slightly better domestic policies, but many will not cross that line. Trying to sway them with bullshit “lesser of two evils” nonsense will not work.
Obviously, things in Canada are different - we don’t have nearly as much of a role to play as the US does in genocide, and the population is also less right wing overall. But that just makes it even weirder that you’d respond so negatively to the simple true statement that “Carney supports genocide” - it is objectively true and stating it isn’t even realistically going to change anything. The more I interact with libs the more it feels like they don’t even believe their own “lesser of 2 evils” stance, they just genuinely don’t care about murder supported by their money as long as it happens far enough away.
Bruh. We all saw the outcome of statements like yours in America. A massive portion of the pro-Palestine vote chose Donald because they were hammered over and over with “Kamala supports genocide” with no regard for Trump’s position. Incredibly fucking ironic that you’re pretending my position is going to bring fascism to Canada when rhetoric like yours is what will get PP elected by driving voters away from Carney. It’s incredibly disingenuous to pretend statements like “Carney supports genocide” in the absence of any other context - such as comparing that stance to the other party leaders - is even slightly innocuous.
So please, if you aren’t just a shitty troll trying to get PP elected by pretending to be a progressive concerned about Israel’s genocide, spend some time in self reflection and consider why so many Palestine supporters in the States were persuaded to vote against Kamala.
Who told you that pro-Palestine people voted for Trump? Choosing not to vote for Harris is not the same as voting against her.
And I don’t need to compare Carney to other party leaders because we all know that Polievre is pro-genocide - it goes without saying. I have no hope of ever convincing conservatives - they are too far gone. Liberals are supposedly the “good side” which is why their hypocrisy needs to be called out.
To make it clear again: I do NOT support the cons and implying I do is a strawman.
‘An election is no time to discuss serious issues’
“Carney supports genocide” is as true a statement as “[Insert name here that criticizes Israel] supports Hamas” and it’s as difficult to accept.
The reason I don’t appreciate this framing is that while it contains a kernel of truth (Carney hasn’t come out swinging against Israeli policy, and evidently some of his brief government’s actions are questionable) it also distorts the truth in several ways.
For example, what does “pro genocide” mean? I would say that Ben Gvir is unambiguously “pro genocide”, like the guy wants to go kill all Palestinians. Is that Carney’s position? No. Then you have for example the German government that are actively trying their best to refuse to face reality and are therefore functionally pro genocide. Is that Carney’s position? No. And since “genocide” is such a signifier of unambiguous evil, is being “pro genocide” just not forcefully being “against genocide”, the way that South Africa and Ireland are? In that case for example are, I dunno, …say, Portugal, or Mexico, or Sweden “pro genocide”?
At the same time, Carney has talked about the territorial integrity of Gaza, putting Palestine and Ukraine (and Canada!) on the same rhetorical space. Is that what a “pro genocide” politician would do? I don’t think so.
So, I don’t appreciate the framing at all. A phrase like “Carney is pro genocide” is just plain misinformation.
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The last residential school closed in 1997. Colonizers support colonization. From the comments, you can tell they hate being reminded of it.
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