Catholic Health Initiatives-Iowa, a faith-based health care provider, is arguing in a medical malpractice case that the loss of an unborn child does not equate to the death of a “person” for the purpose of calculating damage awards.
In Iowa, court-ordered awards for noneconomic losses stemming from medical malpractice are capped at $250,000, except in cases that entail the “loss or impairment of mind or body.”
Attorneys for the CHI and MercyOne hospital are arguing the cap on damages still applies in cases where the “loss” is that of a fetus or unborn child.
CHI’s status as a nonprofit, tax-exempt entity is based on its stated mission of providing health services “in the spirit of the gospel.” The ethics guidelines it approved in 2018 state that the corporation is committed to “respect the sacredness of every human life from the moment of conception until death.”
Money is far more important than principles. -Modern Christianity
Historically Christianity hasn’t been much different unless you go way back.
Not really. They banned priest marriage so they could stop paying pensions to widows and would inherit all their property, and throughout the Catholic existence they were selling pardons for sins.
Even the establishment of Christianity was a cash grab. They gentrified Jesus because Jews weren’t interested in this particular messiah and it was the gentiles who had the cash at the time.
I dunno, there was some pretty cool stuff going on in central/south america in the 60s. Ernest cardenal and solentiname come to mind.
Yeah and Jesus was a pretty groovy dude but his religion hoards wealth.
I remember talking to a historian in Portugal who said she loved the Vatican for its history, but hated it for its opulence.
Less than twenty years after the Catholic church formed “rat lines” to smuggle Nazis to South America to protect them from prosecution for their crimes against humanity.
It’s okay though, they both apologized to and forgave themselves in their own heads so it’d be rude to bring it up.
Blessed are the rich and powerful, for they fill God’s collection plate
They indulge but also by the indulgences
“But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!”
-George Carlin
The Christian Schrodinger Fetus … it is neither dead nor alive … worthless nor valuable … you don’t know what it is until you see it and once you do, it is probably already dead
Abortion is MURDER! UNLESS it Costs us MONEY in Which case Abortion is NOT MURDER!
-People who Follow the
10987some Commandments!
Oh Yazz!
Rules for thee and not for me
I’ve encountered many situations of priests having girlfriends, boyfriends and even whole ass families on the side and the parishioners were…okay with it? Like, being celibate is one of the basic prerequisites for your job and you are violating it so casually? No wonder the Catholic church is hemorraging members, this type of in-your-face hipocrisy has become commonplace.
That is an even more finicky situation. Roman Catholic priests cannot marry, but Eastern Catholic priests can, and there are exemptions that can be made for Roman Catholic converts. On top of that, you may have seen a “high church” protestant group (looks like a Catholic Church) like Anglicans who generally can marry or date.
Yeah an Anglican priest can be indistinguishable from a catholic one except for the fact that she and her wife have kids.
The reason behind priests not being allowed to marry originally had nothing to do with their faith though. It’s because Catholic priests were bequeathing church assets to their children when they died. The church just put a thin veneer of dogma on top of the reasoning when they used the dictate of no marriage to stop the theft.
There’s also the part about being backward, hateful and wrong. I don’t even have to mention that one other thing but you know exactly what it is.
“Faith-based health care provider” is one of the saddest euphemisms I’ve heard in a while.
I mean they cover up child rape . Totally on brand for them and most religious organizations
I don’t know why I’m still surprised by the hypocrisy at this point.
Those guys will say almost anything for their weekly free money.
Now, now, the Laws of Hammurabi clearly state what to do here…
22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
So you will note that punishment is only given out as the woman is harmed, as this is a life. Miscarriage shmishcarriage, it’s not a life yet so no harm done, no punishment given.
It’s an open and shut case, Your Honour. The husband can demand all he wants but no life was harmed here, no eyes, no teeth, the $250,000 cap applies as “the court allows”.
Numbers 11.
Abortion is only wrong when it’s a woman’s choice.
The Bible does say in several places that life begins at the first breath.
The bible also gives you a recipe that will induce abortion, yet here we fucking are.
The Bible says a lot of things, you think they’ll listen?
Never heard that before, what do i search for? Would love to have this info in my back pocket for when needed
Whoops, meant to reply to spooky2092 who said there’s a recipe to induce abortion in the Bible
Numbers 5:11-31 It details how a husband can “test” his wife with the Bitter Water-if she miscarries it was a bastard, if she’s “innocent” it doesn’t do anything. The version I saw has “16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water”. Presumably this is the recipe though there’s probably other versions with some more details.
Thanks. That’s wild
Depending on the interoperation you could argue it starts much later
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:4-5
“Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.”
Ephesians 6:5-8
What’s your point?
There is zero point in ever listening to what a conservative is saying. It changes based on whatever they think is beneficial to them in that exact moment. They’re like the demons from Frieren.
Ahhhhhh this rules 😂
Not so convicted in your beliefs that you won’t turn over some of the peoples donations?
CURIOUS
Well, that almost feels like hypocrisy, doesn’t it?
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