• JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip
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    Complaining about lefties not supporting a party that hates lefties is not going to fix the problems at hand

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      “Blue team hates me (please ignore the significant successes of socialists in primaries where progressives actually bother to fucking show up), therefore, it’s okay to let marginalized groups get murdered!”

      Sorry that a core tenet of leftism to so many people like you is “The lives of the marginalized have to be EARNED to get MY support”

      “Blue Circus wasn’t ENTERTAINING enough for me to vote against death camps for immigrants”

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        Completely missed my point. Stop blaming the voters and start blaming the politicians who refuse to put regular people’s lives above the wishes of their wealthy benefactors.

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          These people are children utterly incapable of holding leaders responsible for their actions. It’s just a sports game to them. All that matters is that their color wins.

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          Politicians represent voters.

          If people don’t show up, why do you expect to get represented?

          Zohran won the primary because people came out. And it was still appalling at 30% turnout.

          How hard is it to just agree that if you want to be represented you need to show up?

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            Then make it easier for people to show up. Have locations open for a whole week. Universal mail in ballots. Compulsory voting. Hell, why not digitize it like Estonia did 20 years ago.

            Voters aren’t the problem. The problem is voter suppression. Partially by FPTP, partially by our oppressive economy. Stop blaming the many and start blaming the few

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              I mean, I fully agree voting needs to be much easier. Vote by mail, whatever. No argument at all.

              But no- you can’t explain 90 MILLION people not voting based on voter suppression. That’s just an absolute BS excuse.

              Too many people are lazy and too many have been told “oh it’s the DNC”, etc. It’s not. Primaries have like 30% turnout AT BEST. 90 million didn’t show up to vote against a fascist in the general.

              People need to be told- “hey, it’s you. YOU need to go vote.” They’ve been absolved of responsibility time and time again. When you tell people that it’s not their fault then they have zero incentive to correct any kind of behavior.

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                You sound like an abusive parent. Probably should seek therapy. You also reminded me of this well worded Tumblr post. Here’s the text

                Everyone will not just

                If your solution to some problem relies on “If everyone would just…” then you do not have a solution. Everyone is not going to just. At [no] time in the history of the universe has everyone just, and they’re not going to start now.

                Again. Stop blaming the many, start blaming the few.

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                  Ahh OK. We’ll just treat them like they have zero responsibility like spolled kids. Surely they’ll turn around. /s

                  Pro tip- your approach has done Jack shit for decades so

                  I can’t imagine what a spoiled brat you must be when something like “take responsibility for your actions and inaction” must sound like “abuse.”

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                    Yeah people need to do what they’re told, that’ll stop fascism. /s

                    Why don’t you point that attitude at the DNC (the ones who are actually supposed to do what we say)? Why don’t you ask them to take responsibility for their actions? They could’ve won if they had listened instead of literally plugging their ears when being told they were doing wrong.

                    photo evidence of them literally plugging their ears

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        If both sides stopped taking online potshots at each other and recognized that both groups are willing to utilize the second amendment in support of each other from the government, we’d be in a much better place.

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          If both sides stopped taking online potshots at each other and recognized that both groups are willing to utilize the second amendment in support of each other from the government

          Bruh, neither group has used the second amendment even in defense of themselves in any appreciable numbers. We have, what, one leftist who dared to open carry and got shot for it?

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      They’re only going to do half the things I want! Better protest-no-vote in the party that wants to kill me!