• AnonomousWolf@lemmy.world
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    If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you’re a hypocrite.

    Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.

    There are plenty of valid reasons AI is bad, but the argument for the environment seems weak, and most people using it are probably hypocrites. It’s barely a drop in the bucket compared to other things

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      Ahh so are you going to acknowledge the privacy invasion and brain rotting cause by Ai or are you just going to focus on dismissing the environmental concerns? Cause I linked more than just the environmental impacts.

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      Texas has just asked residents to take less showers while datacenters made specifically for LLM training continue operating.

      This is more like feeling bad for not using a paper straw while local factory dumps all their oil change into the community river.

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        Maybe they should cut down on Beef first, it uses exponentially more water than AI and CO2

        • 1 kg Beef = 60kg CO2 - source
        • 1000km Return flight = 314kg CO2 - source
        • 1 Bitcoin transaction = 645kg of CO2 - source
        • 1000 AI prompts = 3kg of CO2 - source
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          your source about beef relies on poore-nemecek 2018, a paper with dubious methodology

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        When someone disagrees with me - echo chamber.

        When someone agrees with me - logical discussion.

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          Then why are you guys avoiding a logical discussion around environmental impact instead of spouting misinformation?

          The fact of the matter is eating a single steak or lb of ground beef will eclipse all most peoples AI usage. Obviously most can’t escape driving, but for those of us in cities biking will far eclipse your environmental impact than not using AI.

          Serving AI models aren’t even as bad as watching Netflix, this counterculture to AI is largely misdirected anger that thrown towards unregulated capitalism. Unregulated data centers. Unregulated growth.

          Training is bad but training is a small piece of the puzzle that happens infrequently, and again circles back to the unregulated problem.

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            It is easier to oppose a new thing than change ingrained habits.

            If your house is on fire, it is reasonable to be mad at someone who throws a little torch onto it.