First of all, to anyone downvoting my Comments about /e/ being a piece of shit, because…
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they advertise themselves as degoogled, but instead let you connect to Google/Microsoft/etc services
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replace all the propriatery not at all Secure Services from Google, with… Drumroll please… Propriatery and not at all Secure Services from themselves and actively encourage it.
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They are For-profit
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and being MORE out of date then even Fairphones stock roms.
… I told you so. Dm your Instance admin, pay them to send the DB entries of your Downvotes on a Thumb drive (or anything else from SSD to 3.5 inchHDD, depending on your preferences), and shove it up your rectum.
But a TL;DR:
/E/ is not Private. They just switch one bad comany to another one.
Wait FUTO bullied the main dev as well? That’s a shame
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I’m kind of out of the loop for everything outside of knowing about Grephene’s existence. Is there a TL;DR or summary somewhere of what all happened? What was he right about?
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Ah I see, thanks! It’s really sad that ROM hardware support is so limited these days. I’d really love to run Graphene on S25 hardware :(
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This is the BEST write up I have ever seen on the topic. Had no idea it was out there and explained a lot about the inner workings for security I wasn’t expecting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LineageOS/comments/n7yo7u/a_discussion_about_bootloader_lockingunlocking/
Minor nit: you don’t need a Google account even with GPS. I have sandboxed GPS without an account and use aurora store for things I can’t get via obtanium/F-droid.
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I didn’t want gps either but too many apps I rely on need it. Soooo took the path of least resistance in that case with a non logged in GPS on GrapheneOS. Its a shame it’s tradeoffs all the time with things like this
Micay wasn’t right about anything, he is an unhinged lunatic. If there really was some giant conspiracy where all these YouTubers like Rossmann and Techlore were trying to take down GrapheneOS on behalf of CalyxOS, why did both of those channels publish multiple positive videos about GrapheneOS recommending it to their viewers? Rossmann has never even criticised GrapheneOS itself, only Micay. And even then, that was only because Micay started threatening Rossmann because of a single YouTube comment he left on the Techlore video (see my above comment for context). Rossmann has only ever said that he no longer feels comfortable using GrapehenOS on his personal device due to Micay’s personal grudge.
Which was a lie. He kept using GrapheneOS for a long time after that. Even though targeted updates aren’t possible he left his video up with that disinformation anyway.
He didn’t have to. All he needed to do was make people think the lead developer was crazy and that the OS isn’t trustworthy. His video has negatively affected GrapheneOS for sure. Still does considering comments like these…
and these.
I just realised you’re a mod of a GrapheneOS community. Your defending of Micay’s insane behaviour makes so much more sense now.
Me being a GrapheneOS moderator doesn’t change things. I’m a random person on the internet who was interested in the project and helped out in the community before joining the moderation team. All of the Rossmann stuff happened before I was a moderator.
I’m a GrapheneOS user and I am a member of the team. If I ever saw anything I had a problem with, I’d jump ship. All people I’ve met that are involved with the project are smart and dedicated. None of them are “lunatics”.
But since my affiliation with the project makes you think this way, I feel it’s only fair to point out that from where I’m standing I’m the one who’s being reasonable here. You’re the one who seems to have an odd, unwavering support for Rossmann or maybe an odd unwavering dislike for GrapheneOS. What are your affiliations? Why are you defending Rossmann’s harassment? Why are you using such over the top charged language about our team, such as calling us lunatics?
There was no bullying, this is a complete fabrication on the part of Daniel Micay (founder of GrapheneOS). Rossmann made several positive videos about GrapheneOS and encouraged his viewers to use it themselves. He later made one video where he explained why he was no longer comfortable using it after Micay went on an insanely unhinged Discord DMs rant accusing Rossmann of “attacking and abusing me and the project” after Rossman left a single comment on a Techlore video. What was this incredibly abusive and inflammatory comment?
“This is informative, and unfortunate.”
Rossmann said he no longer felt comfortable having GrapheneOS on his phone, considering Micay was the one developing it and now clearly held a grudge. I think that’s pretty reasonable and logical, but apparently it was so triggering for the GrapheneOS shills that to this day they continue to push these entirely fake narratives about Rossmann being a “bully” and an “abuser”. All the DMs are in the video I linked, you can decide for yourself whether Micay is an unhinged lunatic or the Second Coming of Christ.
You’re skipping some very important facts here. Daniel was swatted 3 times around the time this all happened. The swatter even was in contact with the GrapheneOS team (not including me at the time) and even said that they were a Techlore fan. So when Rossmann commented on that video, which makes Daniel come off as a crazy person, Daniel was understandably upset. Again, Techlore video was already bad enough, swatting, then a “friendly” person with a large following makes that comment.
So what does Rossmann do? He makes a video while this is happening. What kind of person does that? He claimed that he was deleting GrapheneOS because he no longer trusted the OS, but that was a lie.
Saying something like this is completely inappropriate.
No I’m not. All the excuses about “swatting”, “autism” and everything else are in the Rossmann video I linked above. The way Micay behaved based on that single YouTube comment was the behaviour of an unhinged lunatic. If you think it’s acceptable to send hundreds of messages to people threatening them over a single comment as benign as that one, maybe you’re an unhinged lunatic as well. This is psychotic, controlling behaviour and is potentially very dangerous. I’m not sure why you can’t see that.
You did skip a lot of facts, which just makes your bias clear. Being swatted repeatedly is probably not fun. Hasn’t happened to me, but I at least have the capacity to understand that that could cause people to be very upset. Imagine you are just hanging out, working your butt off on a project that benefits thousands of people, but some crazy person is trying to destroy it by spamming CSAM and gore in your chat rooms, then that crazy person calls the cops and convinces them to break down your door armed to the teeth and ready to shoot people. The swatter tried to kill him. Then someone pretending to be a “friend” turns their back like that? Then even makes a video filled with lies and misdirection aimed at further harming him? It should be clear that someone in that kind of situation is not going to be acting calmly and you’re calling him a lunatic.
And I guess I’m a lunatic for having basic empathy too.
Well, my previous statement was kinda misleading. Louis Rossman made ~2 vids about Micay being a dick to him and using autism as an excuse for his behaviour.
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I just dived into that rabbit hole, heres what I could understand until now:
Theres this Business guy, who owns/Controls much of the Calyx Infrastructure.
When Copperhead, a for Profit Company tried to buy up Graphene, the Calyx Guy was (according to Graphene Mastodon team) very prominent and they tried to pressure them into buying it up
Now it backfired for Calyx as the Business guy did a
On the team, and now they have to change all the Infrastructure and Keys in order to make their workflow secure again
Louis has a Telecom Company with that dude as co-founder, apparently according to some legal document
Also, very many other OSs have a Problem with Graphene, as they want to be the next Private ROM, but they just wont put in the Time to do anything more then fork Linaege and add their own Propriatery stuff (looking at you, Iode), so they very often try to make alligations against Graphene, only to be completely wrong
Tbh, I just dont get ROMs, just because you cant beat Graphene dosent mean that everyone needs the kind of Security Graphene gives you. Just dont fuck up, no matter how hard it apparently is.
iodéOS has never made allegations against GrapheneOS. You are spreading so much conspiracy disinformation in this thread, it’s crazy you haven’t been called out more for it.
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Yep, if it wasn’t obvious before, it is now.
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