Toxic masculinity is a global phenomenon, but nowhere is it more virulent than in this hypermodern, connected society. What can other countries learn from this ‘ground zero’ of misogyny?

  • aramis87@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    Funny how, when women are unhappy, they’re told they’re too emotional, need therapy, need medication, need to work on themselves. And when men are unhappy, it’s someone else’s fault.

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      3 months ago

      As a man, I have experienced the exact opposite.

      When I have seen women unhappy, entire communities have come together to help them. White knights, in particular, fall all over themselves to help her.

      When I have seen men unhappy, it’s invariably accompanied by women saying, “so fucking what? Man up, you baby.”

      Sure, those men who understand how to help also reach out to assist unhappy men. But they do their best to avoid doing so in the presence of women, otherwise that “un-manliness” gets infected over to them as well like a miasma, and news of that percolates throughout the wider social group. It never ends well for any man who visibly assists, unless they’re wearing a uniform in an official capacity.

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          3 months ago

          Maybe you need different friends.

          Removing all women from my social sphere seems to be just a little bit extreme…

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            3 months ago

            Enough to create the culture is all it takes. Being here I would hope that you understand we do this to each other too

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                Not really, can’t choose your family. And your ability to relocate jobs, community, or even out of relationships can be restricted by income.

                And trying to change our culture is often met with reactionary backlash. I don’t know if you’ve looked into Edward Bernays but the state of gender relations started bad here by default and was made institutionally disastrous by our government. It actually is baked in to our culture just to be shitty to women and others who don’t meet specific ideals.

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                    3 months ago

                    I don’t know, don’t really need a number personally. I know I grew up with bad male figures and I know women who had bad male figures including my mother and aunts.

                    If you made me guess I’d say 90% just based on the number of women who have disclosed to me something fucked up happening to them. Don’t think you can verify that number though because people don’t exactly report their families. None that I know did.

                    Are you actually interested in any of this? It’s strongly tied to men’s liberation but I get the feeling you might be coming at this from a “which gender is worse” angle.