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    Is this badly timed or intentional to fracture the not-fascists in America? Priorities, people. Don’t fight your allies when you are at war with a common enemy that is about to destroy all of you.

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            Yeah I bet we’d be in exactly the same position right now if non fascist infighting hadn’t handed republicans the house, senate, and presidency.

            I’m sure kamala would have cut funding to everything useful and given executive power to elon musk and sold our national parks to the oil companies and built a private gestapo and legalized stopping brown people for being brown and put massive tariffs on everything and given the CDC to an evil dipshit and I’m sure a blue majority senate and house would have approved all of that.

            Good thing everyone screaming about the genocide made so many people lose hope or it might still be going on.

            Wait, trump did end the palastinian conflict, right?

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                If only two candidates had the possibility of winning, and neither of them were going to change that particular issue, then it held no bearing on the election. Pretending that it could be changed and sowing apathy in voters gave full power to the fascists.

                So, is the world a better place now? Or is everyone worse off than we could have been while the genocide is still happening regardless?

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              Can you answer two questions for me.

              What is the purpose of having a democracy?

              Is it ever morally correct to affirmatively vote for a genocide?

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                1. We haven’t been a democracy since we allowed companies to buy politicians. We’ve had two sides to choose from, kind of, which are: ‘hardly does anything’ and ‘actively makes everything worse for everyone immediately’.

                2. Genocide wasn’t on the ballot. Anyone who thought trump would stop it was wrong, as anyone who thought about it for a second had been telling them.

                So now that those are out of the way, how does that idealistic high horse help every person whose life is now actively worse now?

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                  We haven’t been a democracy since we allowed companies to buy politicians.

                  so why are you trying to get people to engage in a sham, then? are you working with the fascists to try and dampen direct action?

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                  1. You’re then caputulating to the rules in an unjust society. If we don’t have a democracy in which we can extract concessions and enact the will of the people, why are you so bent about this “democratic” vote.

                  2. Almost correct. Third parties exist, and not voting exists. The democrats failed to have a platform that made people want to vote for them. You hold the position that the democrats can’t fail, they can only be failed. Blaming voters doesn’t work.

                  Things aren’t better now. They’ve been steadily getting worse under every administration. Electoralist liberal brain rot is keeping your mind in this neat little box where you can’t imagine a different world outside of dogshit and worse dogshit.

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              Kamala could have won easily if she and the rest of the corporate dems stopped taking that AIPAC money, meaningfully opposed genocide, and did anything at all to address our absurd wealth disparity, they chose not to because the only thing they actually give a shit about is getting paid

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    This is silly. There is a meaningful difference between bourgeois democracy and fascism.

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          There is a difference. But they are part of the same tool.

          Therefore drawing the distinction isn’t particularly poignant.

          Even if you’re a tree, and the handle is made of wood.

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            A stick is an essential part of an axe but not a sufficient one. And the same handle can be used to make different tools. Axes, hammers, mallets, etc. And you can use a stick for non aggressive tasks, like a measurement stick, or a door prop, or a tiny pole for a tiny tent for Chihuahuas. And even when used as a weapon, well you tell me if you’d rather battle a fighter wielding an axe or one wielding just the handle of an axe.

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        Your line is the soviet line before Barbarossa. Are we really going to re-litigate WW2 here?

        Edit: lol, you want a meme? The top panel would be the bourgeois/Democrats+traditional-GOP using a water cannon on the working class. The bottom panel would be the fascists/MAGA-Republicans using an actual cannon. Like I said, a meaningful difference.

        Edit2: your meme by the way, absolutely accurate up until about 2024.

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          The crackdown on campus protests against genocide under the Biden administration was a timbre change. I see Republicans and Democrats as enabling friends. US politics are weird.

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      the irony of a liberal calling someone a nazi, when their entire political party has done nothing but consistently work with trump to further his fascist agenda.

      you’re too fucking stupid to even argue with.

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      Yes.

      Democrats like Chuck Schumer are collaborators.

      Unfortunately, Democrats like Chuck Schumer also comprise the leadership of the party.

      We desperately need done to the DNC what the Tea Party did to the GOP. We need a Guillotine Party.

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        We desperately need done to the DNC what the Tea Party did to the GOP. We need a Guillotine Party.

        This requires pragmatism and a level of electoral politics. Too high a bar for my fellow leftists.