Data Ownership as a conversation changes when data resides primarily with people-governed institutions rather than corporations.

If you’re a regular internet user the Personal Data Storage paradigm won’t move your data from the cloud to your personal computer. Most people will still rely on an institutional cloud service, but instead of data-banking with a shareholder-controlled corporation people’s data can be entrusted to the equivalent of member-owned credit unions for data storage.

  • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    29·
    2 个月前

    that great for people who have the knowledge to do that, but keep in mind that most people do not, and don’t want to learn how to selfhost from the ground up if all they want to do is backup some photos or work files.

    • latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      9·
      2 个月前

      Well, there are always ready-to-go solutions. A 1TB external drive isn’t all that expensive nowadays, and they’re enough for daily use!

      Plus, honestly… there are soo many tutorials online about how to set up everything, and most things are a couple of commands one has to copy/paste into a command prompt. The anxiety is far worse than the procedure itself.

      Maybe what’s needed is propagating these tutorials more, make them visible and highlight their accessibility in terms of procedural difficulty!

      • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
        19·
        2 个月前

        most things are a couple of commands one has to copy/paste into a command prompt.

        how many people do you think know what a command prompt is? because quite frankly even knowing that much is very uncommon for the vast, overwhelming majority of the population.

        you’re talking about condensing years of learning into a few tutorials, as if it’s nothing. idk if it’s smug superiority, or you’re literally just ignorant of how much you know that the average person does not, but it’s fucking wild that you think the average person is going to be able to do what we do without giving up.

        this ain’t a hobby for everyone else, it’s difficult and frustrating work.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
        5·
        2 个月前

        Is there a way to automatically back up a device to an external drive like that? An advantage of the cloud is it’s automatic. So I don’t have to manually do it all the time or risk losing recent files.

        • feannag@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          2 个月前

          Absolutely. Plenty of backup software will work with an external drive, provided it’s plugged in. Hell even a cron job would work.

          • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            2 个月前

            I don’t know about LibertyLizard, but I thought they were asking how to do that when one is out and about, and the external drive is at home

            • feannag@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              2 个月前

              Ah, I see. Definitely possible to set up something like nextcloud or immich for file and photo backup. Then use a VPN like tailscale or wireguard to access while out of the house, or setting it up publicly available (usually being a reverse proxy).

    • realitista@lemmus.orgEnglish
      3·
      2 个月前

      I mean to be fair, self hosting data doesn’t mean much more than just adding a hard disk or something. It’s only when you want remote access to it that it becomes more complex than that.

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        2 个月前

        it does. you need to choose the software. you need to install the software. you need to update the software, and be prepared to deal with a bad update. you need to keep backups so that you can restore your files when disaster happens, and you need to know how to make a proper backup (have all the data, also backup the permissions, databases need special care, …) and how to restore it.