• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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    2 个月前

    Mining conditions are all over the place right now. Some workers have it good, with good compensation, perks and with a lot of attention paid to safety and others live in horrible deathly conditions and are practically slaves

    • masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from community
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      Some workers have it good, with good compensation, perks

      Only in places where labour organising have managed to win concessions in spite of the capitalist mode of production - a capitalist mode of production that is reproduced globally to this very day. If it wasn’t for the need to stabilise the imperial core, coal miners in Germany would be treated no differently than cobalt miners in the DRC. There is nothing comparable to that in the pre-capitalist world - not even the brutal exploitation of the Americas by the Spanish was reproduced globally.

      You are trying to compare apples with oranges.

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        2 个月前

        We’re talking about how not all conditions are the same, you can’t just discard some conditions because they differ from the point you’re trying to make. Some miners have it really good inside a capitalist system, same as some might’ve had it good under feodalist system.

        • masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from community
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          you can’t just discard some conditions because they differ

          I am not discarding anything. There simply was no feudalist model of resource extraction analogous to the one that has been driving the mining industry in the capitalist era. The well-paid shift boss in a mine in Australia and the poorly-paid rock-drill-operator in South Africa is working under the same capitalist mode of production.

          This was not the case under feudalism.

          So again… you’re comparing apples to oranges.

          • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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            You’re complaining about painting all feodalism era mining as brutal and hazardous while painting all mining under capitalism as brutal and hazardous. It just seems funny