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      I care because it demonstrates how pervasive his views are among the ruling class.

      Show me someone who rejects Kissinger and the horrific shit he did and maybe that’s more like someone who should be in power.

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        More than that, centrists don’t like being reminded that their favorite human was friends with and admired a war criminal. So they have to pretend that Kissinger wasn’t as bad as he was.

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    Every President has called on Kissinger at some point. Even Obama. It’s no surprise at all that HRC would have a professional relationship and even a friendship with the man considering his presence in the administration during her tenure. He never let himself drift far from the seats of power. Ever.

    Kissinger was perfectly happy to make himself useful in some way to perpetuate his view of the geopolitical world.

    E: Don’t believe me?

    Kissinger visited the White House to advise President Barack Obama more than once. And in 2016, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter presented Kissinger with a distinguished public service award from the Defense Department.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/henry-kissinger-dead-leaders_n_5d10ef86e4b0aa375f50baf0/amp

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        It’s not meant to be. It’s an inference that the Cold War anti-commie imperialist way of thinking never stopped. As much as we’d like to think that there is dynamic change with each new president, there really isn’t that much other than the surface diplomacy. The US has been conducting geopolitical business very much the same as it has been for multiple decades. That should be pretty obvious when you view our involvement in world events.

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          As much as we’d like to think that there is dynamic change with each new president, there really isn’t that much other than the surface diplomacy.

          So both sides do it.

          And therefore Clinton being friends with him is NBD.

          If this isn’t using “both sides” as a defense, it sure looks like it.

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            Again, reinterpreting what I said in a limited context to hyperbole.

            No, both sides are not the same.

            Clinton being friends with him is indicative of what her foreign policy was/would have been. Have you forgotten her work?

            Exercise some nuance, man.

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              I see how it is.

              “Both sides” is like “vote blue no matter who” in that it’s only meant to be used to dismiss criticism from the left.

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      Every President has called on Kissinger at some point. Even Obama

      You say this like people didn’t realize Obama lied about being progressive a decade ago…

      Dude was neoliberal thru and they. It’s just he was so (relatively) young no one knew his first election, and the second there wasn’t a primary so the only other option in the general was R

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        Obama campaigned on single payer. That’s VERY progressive. He just copped out on it once he was seated.

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          Lol…

          Campaigning to do something and then immediately refusing to try doesn’t make anyone progressive…

          As I kid I told people I wanted to be an astronaut and they acted happy for me because I was a kid.

          I never became an astronaut, so why are we calling Obama a progressive?

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    I’ll leave the in-depth policy statements to future commenters. I just want to know if they did it.