• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    6 months ago

    and a skull tattoo he got while in the Marines that some said resembled a Nazi symbol

    🙄

    it was one though, hard to say that someone has grown if they’re feigning ignorance about the entire thing.

      • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        6 months ago

        Honestly his military service is even more disqualifying as far as I’m concerned, but I guess spending years gunning down brown foreigners appeals to the median democrat.

        We have actual nazis in office and running for office, people who don’t even hide it. We have to stay focused on what the actual dangers are.

        It’s a year out, if it’s that serious surely someone without all this baggage could run for office.

          • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            6 months ago

            sadly we’re in the world where the bipartisan consensus is for endless warmongering and turning a blind eye to nazis

            • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              ·
              6 months ago

              From his Wikipedia page:

              In 2018, Platner returned to Kabul, Afghanistan, for about six months as a State Department security contractor with Constellis, the private military company formerly known as Blackwater, where he provided diplomatic security to the US ambassador to Afghanistan.

              He worked as security to the US ambassador for 6 months. And quit because he disliked the military industrial complex that he was witnessing from the inside.

              As a former military person he could have lived the good life cashing giant checks from Blackwater until he reached retirement. Instead he quit to take on the not so cushy life of being an oyster farmer. And now he is diving head first into the wood chipper that is a political campaign in the United States against a well established GOP incumbent.

              To be dismissive of such a person is reductive and unnecessarily demeaning. And leads me to wonder if you are being disingenuous in hopes of helping one of the, quite frankly utterly despicable, other candidates.

              • qarbone@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                6 months ago

                Sweet Lord, I saw other comments about a stint and Blackwater but this is the first that actual described it. A 6-month job as an ambassador’s security doesn’t give a lot of free time for atrocities even if it were in Blackwater’s contracts. His service record would likely be more damning than that.

      • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        6 months ago

        his explanation left a lot to be desired, though it’s not surprising that Nazi tattoos fly under the radar as a state department mercenary.

        If you’re posturing like a politically-aware leftist or calling yourself a communist, to claim ignorance of something like that just makes it sound like you’re lying because you got caught.

        • Legonatic@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          6 months ago

          His explanation that he was drunk with buddies on deployment in Croatia is perhaps the most believable circumstance in which someone would make that mistake. Yes, he had the tattoo for several years. I don’t recall how long he said he was aware of it being the Nazi symbol, but yes, in my opinion he should have gotten it removed or covered sooner once he did know. I certainly never would have known that the skull was a Nazi symbol without being explicitly told.

          That said, no, I don’t think it sounds like he’s lying. He isn’t posturing either, and there’s plenty of evidence to back that up.

          If you’re not capable of accepting that he made a mistake and addressed it appropriately, then I don’t see how you could ever be satisfied. If we want real people to run for office and not just establishment approved candidates, you need to open to the idea that people make mistakes, they change, and they may not have the squeaky-clean past you idealize.

          I think you have unrealistic expectations, not just of people running for office, but for people in general. Your purity test is not only foolish, but will cause you to be deeply unsatisfied and let down by so much in the world.

          • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            6 months ago

            I can accept that for a lot of democrats this is something they’re entirely willing to overlook. It’s not a surprise because they have already been fine operating as co-conspirators in decades of US warmongering.

            Your purity test is not only foolish, but will cause you to be deeply unsatisfied and let down by so much in the world.

            I agree, I might be less let down by the world if I was more comfortable around people with nazi tattoos. I think I will continue to be disappointed though.

      • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        6 months ago

        Details? You’re looking at a different picture than I am.

        I just see a black blob.

        Also, thanks for posting that. It’s the first time I’ve actually seen a picture of the tattoo and as someone who hasn’t engrossed themselves in white supremacist culture, wouldn’t immediately place that as being a Nazi symbol.