Gee, thanks. If you ever wonder why people from my province dislike the rest of the country, look no further than the above.
Since teachers were ordered back to work, students have been staging walkouts, the AFL has stated support for the ATA strike stating that a full-on general strike is on the table, support for the UCP has dropped in the polls, and the NDP has made it clear they will fight on this front in the legislature and elsewhere…
…and yet still to the rest of the country we’re just the brunt of the joke where we’re just the idiotic, cowardly conservatives that continue to shoot ourselves in the foot because people can’t be bothered to learn the dynamics of how this province operates. All you need to do is look at the last provincial election to see the NDP’s performance improvement in comparison to when Kenny’s UCP was elected, especially when it comes to how they performed in Calgary.
I would appreciate people more if they bothered to learn why Alberta is the way it is, but I guess it’s so much more simple to simply switch the brain off and continue calling us hicksville or such simply because it’s always the “in” thing to do.
Edit: Downvotes despite literal facts being presented, people giving false history in the replies whilst claiming that others aren’t educated, and insults directed at Albertans even more despite an Albertan not having done so to either them or the feds. Way to prove a point.
Person from Ontario who moved to Alberta 15 years ago here. Want to know the secret of why no one outside Alberta cares about Alberta? Because Alberta isn’t special, and the oil and gas patch isn’t special. Its a nice little windfall that will run out one day and the province has no plan B.
I’ve had to have this conversation with coworkers who complain about how no one in BC or out east care about Alberta and when I ask then if they care about automotive layoffs in Ontario, or loss of fisheries jobs on the east coast, or cost of living issues on the west coast, they outright say they don’t give a shit or they say “its different”. Its not different, Alberta isn’t the economic powerhouse of Canada that it thinks it is. Beyond that though, we have a really fucking stupid government that’s actively destroying what’s left of our education and healthcare systems, and the dumb fuck hicks outside Calgary and Edmonton do in fact eat it up hook line And sinker.
You’re blanketing the thoughts of an entire province’s population with those of a handful of people. There’s more than plenty people here that care about work issues elsewhere, it’s why a lot of people came here to begin with. My own family came out this way from Newfoundland because of a lack of job opportunities there at the time, and I know of others from Atlantic Canada, namely New Brunswick, who came this way because of a scarce job market out that way.
The very reason why there’s this to and fro negativity between Albertans and the rest of Canada is because the government doesn’t push for new job opportunities in Alberta that aren’t related to O&G. What are the feds doing for canola farmers? It is so easy to go out there and support our canola farmers through tariffs on olive oil and other cooking oils, as well as marketing campaigns to Canadian consumers, yet that doesn’t happen. How about supporting struggling sugar beet farmers, who are almost all based in Alberta and the only source of domestic sugar in Canada? It isn’t hard to develop frameworks for a domestic sugar market and develop a Domestic Sugar Policy like every other developed country, and yet we continue to screw over the people who literally feed us because it’s “not politically worthwhile”.
What about Danielle Smith teasing hydrogen vehicle manufacturing in Alberta? At no point did the feds say “yes, we support more jobs in Alberta, let’s get the ball rolling and work together on this”, leaving Smith backed into a corner of actually needing to do something. At no point have they talked about diversifying the economy in Alberta to help the province out of it’s woes, and at no point have they mentioned any programs to assist oil workers like those in my family who lost their jobs in finding new work, especially after they were left behind by the province like they were despite doing everything expected of them.
It is painfully easy to fall for someone who tells you how exceptional you are as they make your life worse when the opposite side hasn’t given you the support that you need. It’s also painfully easy to have disdain for the rest of the country as a result of that, but not everybody falls down that path.
Let me ask you something, why the fuck would the feds help Alberta? For real though, why would they? I remember back in 2014 in the middle of the oil crash watching coworker after coworker get laid off from their high paying O&G jobs while the federal government extended EI benefits to them, continue to blame all their woes on a liberal government that had nothing to do with a middle eastern, Russian and US Shale production Oil glut. Alberta continues to play the victim in federal politics saying “Ottawa never helps us” even when the liberals bought and funded the completion of a pipeline that was so unpopular that it barely made it across the finish line and had to be forced through jurisdictions that didn’t want it there.
And okay let’s talk Danielle smith and fucking diversification. Who fucking cares about hydrogen cars? Who’s using them? What are people actually using, OH BEVS AND PHEVS, and they are a pretty good solution with sound technology? WEIRD. Maybe she shouldn’t have put an axe through our solar and wind renewable market and scared of investors from the province with the excuse of “windmills messing with the view of the Rockies” but slyly pushing for coal mining in the eastern rockies at the same time. I mean I can walk out my front door right now, walk across the street and look at a natural gas processing plant fucking flare up with the rockies as a back drop.
You want the feds to support Alberta farmers? Tell them To stop voting conservative, every single fucking time. Make them into a voting block that will vote for whatever party will actually move away from aligning on every US policy even if its detrimental to our relationship with foreign (Chinese) buyers.
More insults without substantive solutions, more failing to address the root cause of issues, more adding to the negativity of the back and forth, and more dismissing people because “it’s so simple guys, just stop” as if that was a viable approach to anything.
Note how at no point did I insult the feds or voters elsewhere across the country, and yet all the responses insult not just the Alberta government, but Albertan voters, and Albertans in general, all while over-simplifying how to address the issues at hand and dismissing genuine concerns that people here have.
I’m not a Conservative, but when Liberals and the NDP treat people here like this, it’s not hard to see why they stick to the same each election cycle.
No, I think you are a conservative because usually when folks take this position that’s exactly what they say. This whole pity fest a truly Albertan past time.
Read my post and comment history and come back to me. Your “gotcha” is completely hot air and lacks substance.
Once again, you and everyone here is just hating on me for where I was born and raised, and not on my talking points.
Prove to me otherwise. You berated people here with insults and blanketed me as “just another stupid conservative Albertan” simply because I decided to say "hey, maybe it’s wrong to call Albertans “fucking pussies” when the facts of the matter are that unions and such are fighting back, but hey, advocating for unions, the biggest conservative talking point ever.
The Albertans are HUGE pussies. Fuck the notwithstanding clause. Fuck the fines. You just gave up your rights!
Gee, thanks. If you ever wonder why people from my province dislike the rest of the country, look no further than the above.
Since teachers were ordered back to work, students have been staging walkouts, the AFL has stated support for the ATA strike stating that a full-on general strike is on the table, support for the UCP has dropped in the polls, and the NDP has made it clear they will fight on this front in the legislature and elsewhere…
…and yet still to the rest of the country we’re just the brunt of the joke where we’re just the idiotic, cowardly conservatives that continue to shoot ourselves in the foot because people can’t be bothered to learn the dynamics of how this province operates. All you need to do is look at the last provincial election to see the NDP’s performance improvement in comparison to when Kenny’s UCP was elected, especially when it comes to how they performed in Calgary.
I would appreciate people more if they bothered to learn why Alberta is the way it is, but I guess it’s so much more simple to simply switch the brain off and continue calling us hicksville or such simply because it’s always the “in” thing to do.
Edit: Downvotes despite literal facts being presented, people giving false history in the replies whilst claiming that others aren’t educated, and insults directed at Albertans even more despite an Albertan not having done so to either them or the feds. Way to prove a point.
Person from Ontario who moved to Alberta 15 years ago here. Want to know the secret of why no one outside Alberta cares about Alberta? Because Alberta isn’t special, and the oil and gas patch isn’t special. Its a nice little windfall that will run out one day and the province has no plan B.
I’ve had to have this conversation with coworkers who complain about how no one in BC or out east care about Alberta and when I ask then if they care about automotive layoffs in Ontario, or loss of fisheries jobs on the east coast, or cost of living issues on the west coast, they outright say they don’t give a shit or they say “its different”. Its not different, Alberta isn’t the economic powerhouse of Canada that it thinks it is. Beyond that though, we have a really fucking stupid government that’s actively destroying what’s left of our education and healthcare systems, and the dumb fuck hicks outside Calgary and Edmonton do in fact eat it up hook line And sinker.
You’re blanketing the thoughts of an entire province’s population with those of a handful of people. There’s more than plenty people here that care about work issues elsewhere, it’s why a lot of people came here to begin with. My own family came out this way from Newfoundland because of a lack of job opportunities there at the time, and I know of others from Atlantic Canada, namely New Brunswick, who came this way because of a scarce job market out that way.
The very reason why there’s this to and fro negativity between Albertans and the rest of Canada is because the government doesn’t push for new job opportunities in Alberta that aren’t related to O&G. What are the feds doing for canola farmers? It is so easy to go out there and support our canola farmers through tariffs on olive oil and other cooking oils, as well as marketing campaigns to Canadian consumers, yet that doesn’t happen. How about supporting struggling sugar beet farmers, who are almost all based in Alberta and the only source of domestic sugar in Canada? It isn’t hard to develop frameworks for a domestic sugar market and develop a Domestic Sugar Policy like every other developed country, and yet we continue to screw over the people who literally feed us because it’s “not politically worthwhile”.
What about Danielle Smith teasing hydrogen vehicle manufacturing in Alberta? At no point did the feds say “yes, we support more jobs in Alberta, let’s get the ball rolling and work together on this”, leaving Smith backed into a corner of actually needing to do something. At no point have they talked about diversifying the economy in Alberta to help the province out of it’s woes, and at no point have they mentioned any programs to assist oil workers like those in my family who lost their jobs in finding new work, especially after they were left behind by the province like they were despite doing everything expected of them.
It is painfully easy to fall for someone who tells you how exceptional you are as they make your life worse when the opposite side hasn’t given you the support that you need. It’s also painfully easy to have disdain for the rest of the country as a result of that, but not everybody falls down that path.
Let me ask you something, why the fuck would the feds help Alberta? For real though, why would they? I remember back in 2014 in the middle of the oil crash watching coworker after coworker get laid off from their high paying O&G jobs while the federal government extended EI benefits to them, continue to blame all their woes on a liberal government that had nothing to do with a middle eastern, Russian and US Shale production Oil glut. Alberta continues to play the victim in federal politics saying “Ottawa never helps us” even when the liberals bought and funded the completion of a pipeline that was so unpopular that it barely made it across the finish line and had to be forced through jurisdictions that didn’t want it there.
And okay let’s talk Danielle smith and fucking diversification. Who fucking cares about hydrogen cars? Who’s using them? What are people actually using, OH BEVS AND PHEVS, and they are a pretty good solution with sound technology? WEIRD. Maybe she shouldn’t have put an axe through our solar and wind renewable market and scared of investors from the province with the excuse of “windmills messing with the view of the Rockies” but slyly pushing for coal mining in the eastern rockies at the same time. I mean I can walk out my front door right now, walk across the street and look at a natural gas processing plant fucking flare up with the rockies as a back drop.
You want the feds to support Alberta farmers? Tell them To stop voting conservative, every single fucking time. Make them into a voting block that will vote for whatever party will actually move away from aligning on every US policy even if its detrimental to our relationship with foreign (Chinese) buyers.
Fucking joke province sometimes.
More insults without substantive solutions, more failing to address the root cause of issues, more adding to the negativity of the back and forth, and more dismissing people because “it’s so simple guys, just stop” as if that was a viable approach to anything.
Note how at no point did I insult the feds or voters elsewhere across the country, and yet all the responses insult not just the Alberta government, but Albertan voters, and Albertans in general, all while over-simplifying how to address the issues at hand and dismissing genuine concerns that people here have.
I’m not a Conservative, but when Liberals and the NDP treat people here like this, it’s not hard to see why they stick to the same each election cycle.
No, I think you are a conservative because usually when folks take this position that’s exactly what they say. This whole pity fest a truly Albertan past time.
Read my post and comment history and come back to me. Your “gotcha” is completely hot air and lacks substance.
Once again, you and everyone here is just hating on me for where I was born and raised, and not on my talking points.
Prove to me otherwise. You berated people here with insults and blanketed me as “just another stupid conservative Albertan” simply because I decided to say "hey, maybe it’s wrong to call Albertans “fucking pussies” when the facts of the matter are that unions and such are fighting back, but hey, advocating for unions, the biggest conservative talking point ever.
How about YOU prove us wrong. How about YOU refute my points. I have no obligation toi you, I’m telling the side I see everyday living in Alberta.
In the United States the Nazis say they became Nazis because the libs were condescending.
You shouldn’t fall into the same bullshit argument.