Not really a political debate, btw, this is more of a cultural discussion thing.

So… my mom said to me that, when I was younger, that I “behaved” more, and it’s only after we came to the US that I started to act more “rebellious”… so she’s blaming the US Culture?!? What lmao?

Because she’s saying Americans are more “rebellious” so it’s therefore it has to be the culture here has apparantly “poisoned” my mind?

Lmao what?

So sad you don’t hold your leash that tight like you envisioned, mom? 🤣

So… I’m just like…

(1) my parents made the decision to move, but now they’re gonna blame an entire country they chose to move to???

(2) kids want more invidividuality as they grow older… like this is probably biology… but sure, “if I was in China I’d be ‘behaving’ more”… like teachers slapping your hand with a 1 meter ruler? that? or a walled-off internet and information access?

(3) the exact word is 聽話 which has multiple meanings, not sure which one is the intended use, but one of the definitions is: “obedient”… so… 👀 I’m… not… being obedient… enough… ???

(4) my parents should be the last ones to talk about obedience/disobedience to me; my existence is literally the result of them being disobedient to the government policy and gave birth to me in spite of the One Child Policy (hell, many people did that too, I’m not alone being an “illegal” second child, so is Chinese society rebellious too?), so they talk about disobedience, my existence was precisely the result of an act of disobedience, maybe disobedience is my fated nature.

So… do you think Americans (or Westerners in general) are “too rebellious”? Were you “too rebellious” growing up? If you have children, do you think they are “too rebellious”? Should kids be being “more obedient”?

🤔

  • swelter_spark@reddthat.com
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    I never considered myself to be rebellious, just someone trying to live their own life. My parents were very vocal about their dissatisfaction, but they didn’t seem to like kids in general.

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    1. It’s their fault that they brought you to Sodom or Gomorrah which made you disobedient
    2. Rebellion and disobedience is how we improve society
    3. This is natural for children, especially male children to leave their group where they grew up (and being rebelious is part of it), just look at Lions and other animals. How else would they find a partner?
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    I was rebellious. It started when I was in the 4th grade, and I had a goofy teacher. It made me want to not be serious and not do my work.

    I started slacking off. By the 6th grade, I decided to skip school one day. I got caught in a Best Buy-like store (I can’t remember the name) playing Nintendo on the store display.

    By the 7th grade, I befriended a 9th grader who taught me how to skip school and not get caught. It was addictive. He also taught me how to break into people’s houses (mostly through doggie doors) and steal. We got busted by the cops for truancy once, and he ratted me out saying I was the ring leader.

    I spent a lot of summers in summer school making up for all the failed classes (due to skipping class). It should also be noted that I was a latchkey kid (80s and 90s), and we had an answering machine that I would regularly wipe messages from the school before my parents got home.

    When I was 15, my parents joined Amway and would go on regular weekend trips. So my brother would have his of-age friend buy us booze using the food money, and we would throw huge house parties that usually ended with the cops being called. I would get blackout drunk on those weekends.

    I used to drive my car to drivers ed.

    I dropped out of high school three times. I also attempted suicide 7 times. It’s a miracle Im alive.

    My kids are nothing like me (so far), and I aim to keep it that way. I don’t lie to them, and I will gladly tell them about my childhood. They need to know that I understand that shit happens so they can come to me with any problems they have.

    I don’t force or guilt them into doing things. I give them choices. I also give them consequences. They don’t always agree with me, but they at least do what needs to be done (they are both usually A/B students). My oldest got his first D in 7th grade Spanish. I’m glad he did. Now he knows what it feels like to not succeed, and hopefully won’t suffer as much anxiety when he starts struggling the next time; i.e. he knows that life will go on regardless of what grade he gets.

    I am American. Born and bred in the south, no less. I’ve seen both blatant and subtle/accidental racism first hand from my family. I’ve also seen financial struggles and a foreclosure on my childhood home. But I’m still blessed compared to most. And I won’t hesitate to help anybody out when I can (I don’t care who you are). I can only hope my kids grow up to do the same.

    ~Take all that for what you will. It’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.~